#Menendez Murders

[fallenangelontheceiling]

I kinda want to do a Menendez Brothers deep dive but I also know it will gut me. There will be no catharsis or certainty, only morbid curiosity.

If anyone wants to talk about this please message me.

I’m thinking of buying the Robert Rand book.

[newwavesylviaplath]

idk who this nick chavez guy is but im pissed off we never got to see evan peters as a sexy priest

[niteskysx]

Need a Bonnie and Clyde American Psycho type fanfic of nicholas x reader rn……

[justthemis124]

My opinion on “Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez story” PART I

If some of you guys have read my presentation post, you know that this show encouraged me to create this blog, because after finishing the last episode, I just needed to talk about it to someone. Unfortunately nobody I know has seen it or is even interested in seeing it. Anyway that’s not the point, I have a lot of things to say about the show, that’s why this post is only a part 1, and I’ll try my best to organize my thoughts as best as I can.

You can read part II just here :))

I. THE RYAN MURPHY PROBLEM

I feel like I needed to start with the most obvious one.

So first of all you need to know that my only knowledge of Ryan Murphy comes from the 5 seasons of American Horror Story that I watched. And the thing that I noticed straight away when watching AHS was the omnipresence of very, very uncomfortable and weird s*x scenes. Every 5 seconds you get these scenes that serve no purpose to the plot whatsoever, it feels like they’re there just for the sake of making people uncomfortable and satisfying whatever perverse desire Ryan Murphy has. Now, I’ll say that American Horror Story is fictional and that, at the end of the day, no matter how disgusting these scenes are, they remain in the fictional realm.

BUT the problem is that RM has clearly brought his weird and obscene fantasies into the world of what I can only think of calling “True Fiction” (a show or movie based on real events, and that wants itself to be accurate). It’s something that you can so clearly see in each and every episode of the show, and while watching it, I remember thinking how disgusting it was that this almost 60 years old man was just forcing his perversion into a representation of literal victims of incestuous s*xual abuse. And I genuinely cannot express how sick to my stomach it makes me.

Furthermore, I think that it is also very clear whose side Ryan Murphy seems to be on, and in my opinion and based on the way he decided to portray the brothers, I think that he clearly thinks that the boys are liar. Which okay, he is of course entitled to his opinion on the matter, even if I (along with a lot people) strongly disagree with it. The problem is that he should not bring his opinion into the show and make his opinion seem like the real and factual events.

On that same note, I’m sure most of you are aware, but Erik released a statement through his wife about the show, I’ll put it below :

And I’m so glad he spoke up and said how much fake things, inaccurate portrayals and misinformation this show was spreading. Unfortunately, Ryan Murphy responded to this statement, in the worst manner possible, here is his response below :

I find it absolutely insane to tell people, whose life you tried to recreate on screen, that you did an amazing job at it while these persons themselves tell you that you failed to put in light the truth that they spent their whole lives trying to be heard.

In conclusion on this whole part about Ryan Murphy, I was just really disappointed in the way that he produced and realised the whole show as well as the way he handled the aftermath of its release, this man even had the audacity to say that he had no interest in talking to the brothers so that tells us everything that we need to know about him. And I think that he should just stick to fiction and stop trying to film true crime shows if he’s gonna ignore the facts and just build the show on his opinion instead.

II. THE PORTRAYAL OF THE BROTHERS

The issue with the portrayals of the brothers is obviously directly linked to Ryan Murphy but I wanted to dedicate a part about it and not it be a sub part to the RM problem.

When I was watching the show, the first thing that struck me was the portrayal of Lyle. I was familiar with the Menendez case way before the show because, like a lot of people, I had watched the trials on YouTube. And while I cannot claim to know what Lyle is like, and none of us can, because we don’t know him, I was still quite shocked to see the way they made him act on the show. I guess that this arrogant, angry, violent and spoiled rich kid act just wasn’t what I was expecting, along with a lot of people. And we were right to find this representation to be odd because Erik, himself, talked about how inaccurate and defamatory this representation of Lyle was in his statement that you can read above in the Ryan Murphy problem.

So there's already that. And then, the worst part in my opinion, is the way that Lyle and Erik were, first of all, highly s*xualized and also represented as if they were in some kind of incestuous relationship with each other. If we focus for a second on the s*xualization of the brothers, the first example that comes to my mind is the shower scene with Erik in prison. What purpose does that scene serve in the telling of Erik and Lyle's story? I cannot help but think that this is just another manifestation of Ryan Murphy's perverted mind. On that same note (I'm gonna try and explain this next part as best as I can) but I think we all know now that RM has a tendency to cast attractive actors for these type of roles (ex: Evan Peters as Jeffrey Dahmer) to later s*xualize them non stop. And words are failing me to express how wrong that is, because in Dahmer's case he was literally s*xualizing a serial killer, and in the Menendez' case, victims of incestuous s*xual abuse. Again I fail to understand how this man doesn't see any wrong in that.

Now, about the representation of the brothers' relationship. As I was watching the show, I remember noticing all these little things that were insinuating that something romantic was going on between them, again I cannot express how uncomfortable it made me, I can only assume that it was the case for everyone else watching. And again, I cannot find the words to say how disgusting and sick this is. Because here is the thing, so we know that Erik was m*lested by Lyle, because Lyle was himself being abused by José Menendez, he was child and he didn't know any better than to try and recreate what he though was an act of love. BUT knowing that and willingly deciding to subtly portray these brothers as if they were in a consensual incestuous relationship is digusting and sickening.

And I want to clarify that this critic of their portrayal is aimed at Ryan Murphy and in no way at the actors, I will be talking about the actors' work in the second part, in another post.

Alright guys that's it for the first part of my opinion on "Monsters", I hope that maybe some of the points I addressed will help you see the show in another light if you didn't share my point of view. And if my post didn't convince you of anything and if you disagree with me on certain point, please leave a comment so we can discuss it :)

The second part will be focusing on the portrayal of José and Kitty Menendez as well as the work of the actors.

See you in the next post!

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Who are the Mendez bros?

they were two brothers who were severely abused by their father and their mother knew, they ended up killing their parents out of fear their father would kill them. he had been threatening them if they were to come public about it. they are now in jail and have been since the 90s and people are hoping for their release. the public tried to make their trauma and abuse into a spectacle, and tried to turn them into monsters when they were just abuse victims.

[thewingedwolf]

why do they keep letting javier bardem play cubans omg that man is a white spaniard stop casting him as cuban americans!!!

[britneyshakespeare]

you: nicholas alexander chavez, the actor from ryan murphy's recent work

me, a mama's girl and daytime tv viewer:

[williamknotts]

Reunited Behind Bars: The Menendez Brothers' Journey from Infamy to Incarceration Together

Are the Menendez Brothers in the Same Prison? Exploring the Facts Behind the Case

The Menendez brothers, Erik and Lyle, were convicted of the brutal 1989 murders of their wealthy parents, José and Kitty Menendez, in their Beverly Hills mansion. Their sensational trial captured the attention of the nation in the early 1990s, leading to a media frenzy that turned the brothers into household names. Despite multiple trials, claims of parental abuse, and competing narratives around their motivations, they were eventually sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Decades later, the question arises: Are the Menendez brothers in the same prison?

A Look Back at the Case

Before addressing the specifics of their current incarceration, it's important to revisit the key elements of the case that made the Menendez brothers infamous. In August 1989, Erik and Lyle Menendez shot and killed their parents, claiming the act was motivated by years of physical and emotional abuse. During the trials, the brothers' defense hinged on the allegations of sexual abuse, but the prosecution argued that greed and a desire to inherit their parents' fortune were the true reasons for the murders.

After two highly publicized mistrials, the brothers were eventually convicted of first-degree murder in 1996. They were sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole and were initially housed in separate maximum-security prisons in California.

Separate Imprisonment: The Early Years

For many years, Erik and Lyle were housed in different prisons, which is typical for individuals convicted of the same crime. Lyle was initially sent to Mule Creek State Prison in Northern California, while Erik was incarcerated at the California State Prison, Centinela. This separation fueled speculation about whether the brothers would ever reunite behind bars. Prison officials typically avoid housing co-defendants in the same facility to prevent collaboration or potential security risks, especially in high-profile cases like that of the Menendez brothers.

For nearly 20 years, the brothers lived separate lives in prison, maintaining contact through letters and the occasional phone call. Many wondered if the bond between them, which had been evident during their trials, could survive the lengthy separation.

The Reunification: A Long-Awaited Reunion

In 2018, nearly 22 years after their conviction, the Menendez brothers were reunited in the same prison. Lyle was transferred to Richard J. Donovan Correctional Facility in San Diego County, where Erik had already been incarcerated. According to reports, the brothers had an emotional reunion upon meeting for the first time in more than two decades. Erik, who had been at the facility for a few years, greeted Lyle upon his arrival.

The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) confirmed the transfer and reunion, though it was unusual given the typical protocols for co-defendants. Despite this, the CDCR did not provide an official explanation for the decision to house the brothers together. Some believe that their aging status, combined with good behavior and the emotional toll of long-term separation, may have been factors in allowing them to reunite.

Life Behind Bars Together

Since their reunion, Erik and Lyle have been housed in the same prison, though they are reportedly in different sections of the facility. Their lives in prison are far from the luxury they experienced in their early years, but they have settled into a routine. The brothers are involved in various prison programs and have managed to maintain a connection with supporters, both inside and outside of the prison walls.

Their case continues to draw public interest, with documentaries, books, and interviews exploring the complex psychological and familial dynamics that led to the murders. The Menendez brothers have maintained their stance that they acted out of fear and desperation, rather than greed.

The Ongoing Fascination

The story of the Menendez brothers remains a topic of fascination decades after their conviction. Many still debate whether the brothers were victims or villains. While their story has become emblematic of wealth, privilege, and dysfunction, their reunion in prison has also sparked sympathy among some who view their long separation as an additional punishment.

Interest in their case has been renewed in recent years, fueled by social media discussions and a new generation's discovery of their story. TikTok, in particular, has played a role in reigniting debates around the case, with some users calling for leniency or retrials based on the brothers' abuse claims. Legal experts, however, remain divided on whether any new evidence or arguments could overturn their convictions.

Conclusion

The Menendez brothers, once separated by the justice system for their roles in their parents' murders, are now serving their life sentences in the same prison. Their reunion offers a rare and poignant chapter in their ongoing saga, raising questions about justice, rehabilitation, and the human need for familial connection.

While the Menendez case is a reminder of the complexities of criminal justice, their journey continues to captivate the public, highlighting the enduring curiosity about crime, punishment, and the ties that bind—even behind bars.

[fallenangelontheceiling]

Fine. I’ll just hyperfixate on true crime from the 90s by myself. It’s whatever. It’s fine.

[beautifulheartandspirit]

Ryan Murphy is brilliant …

Watching monsters: the lyle and erik menendez story

Brilliant

[thestars-inheaven]

The Menendez brothers case makes me literally so sad.

Whenever I see someone saying that they deserve the sentence that they got you best believe I’m throwing hands

[justthemis124]

The Menendez Brothers Documentary

So I finally found the time to watch the Menendez Brothers documentary.

I'll begin to say how happy I am that Netflix knew to do a documentary to give Erik and Lyle the space to express themselves after "Monsters" was released. I also liked how they addressed the false events that the show was trying to display as the truth, the first example that comes to my mind is the documentary making it clear that even though there were rumours about it, the brothers never made an escape plan and never thought about escaping county jail.

The highlight of the documentary was of course having Erik and Lyle's perspective on everything after all this time. And it was truly heartbreaking hearing them talk about how the only thing they really wanted was to save the other one from José and Kitty, and that they each blame each other for the life that they have now.

I feel like some of you might expect me to talk about the prosecutor from the first trial (I don't remember her name sorry, not that it matters to me anyway) and I really don't feel like she deserves to be talked about, I'll just say that still having this much hatred 30 years after is genuinely crazy.

I was also surprised that the documentary wasn't addressing more of the abuse that the brothers suffered but in insight I understand why and it makes sense to me. Everyone knows by now what these brothers had to endure for most their lives, and I truly think that the main point of it was giving more context to their trial and explaining why today, despite everything, Erik and Lyle have been serving a life sentence without the possibly of parole. For that reason it was really nice to have jurors from both trials explaining what was happening behind closed doors. Because the reason why Erik and Lyle are still in prison today, and I cannot express how glad I am that the documentary made that point very clear, is because the justice system made it so. They made it so that the only thing the jurors could vote for was first degree murder, this is basically manipulating a jury that had no knowledge of the first trial, omitting clear context as to why the crime happened, which is absolutely insane and incredibly unfair.

Now I just wanted to say a few words about Leslie Abramson not wanting to be apart of the documentary. If at first I was disappointed I quickly understood how she must feels. I think it's safe to say that this case was probably the "case of her life", in the sense that she fought so hard and for so long for these brothers. She was the first to believe them and no one has ever fought for them like she did, and maybe no one ever will. And I found some people saying on TikTok (so it's not from me) that her statement probably meant that even if they were able to get out in the near future, they still lost more than 30 years of their lives in prison due to an unfair and corrupted justice system.

I'd also like to say a few words about everything that's going on regarding a possibility of them being free in November, I haven't done enough research on that yet to express myself properly about it so in the meantime I won't express myself on it on this blog until I am 100% sure of what I am talking about.

In conclusion I'll say that this documentary did its job of reestablishing the truth after "Monsters" and giving crucial context about their second trial and why it ended the way it did.

I hope you liked this mini review guys!

See you in the next post!

FREE THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS

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The Menendez Brothers Appeared In The Background Of A Basketball Card With The Photo For The Card Being Taken After They Had Killed Their Parents

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ERIK MENENDEZ LYLE MENENDEZ BROTHERS

This programme was truly heartbreaking , two brothers of Beverly Hills , to a music executive,and a mother 👩🏼,a homemakers , these two parents hated their children,they just kind of see them as extensions of them. People were not ready to hear of the abuse of teenage s and also boys , very sad .😢 plus after the Rodney King beating, and OJ, also Heidi Fleiss Hollywood Madam, these high profile mid 90s stories were very popular back then, so it was almost like, they had to face some of the Scrutiny and put away.

Erik the more popular and how he was maybe more authentic. These ,men/boys , had to go through years of emotional, physical and sexual abuse , these two guys ,I feel either way they were going to be prisoners in the mind , I also believe and i think they never could’ve got away with all this torment and torture they had to face even with the parents gone and dead, they still have it up in their head. I’m sure it doesn’t just his chronic PTSD. The fact that they lost their parents I don’t think they fear their life, but I think they feed their sanity which was stolen and innocent., I possibly do believe that they had an incest relationship with each other, it’s all SNL should be ashamed of themselves for their skit on them, why people don’t come on sexual abuse because they often believe they won’t be believed or heard, which is a very sad fact.

Anyway, if you truly believe his brothers are innocent for the fact they have served a time, not that they did kill their parents, don’t you believe that they’ve served their time?.. mean what frat are they to society now? The true enemies they’ve lost with the two people you should’ve protected them., they felt safe in each other. The fact that lost his hair very young and wear a hairpiece breaks my heart to., what this father was doing was tormenting and abusing sons and making them be really dedicated and determined with sports or work, or university had the opposite effect, made them rebel and it made them, the mental age of possibly 11-year-olds.

It’s also Very interesting, the fact that each other believes that the father or mother preferred respective brother, when in fact they both tormented, abused and threatened , and that nobody belive them , i really hope both of them have found some peace in their minds and hearts ♥️

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Menendez Brothers The Shocking 1989 Beverly Hills Murders & Trial Explained

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