#JURGEN FREAKING LEITNER

[apollosmoon]

A) THIS ART BANGS

B) SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT MUMBOS “ALLIGNMENT” IS IM TOO EXCITED ABOUT ART TO START READING

BUT END SCAR AND VAST PEARL ARE MY BELOVEDS ALREADY

And Mr.Fuckhands McMichaelson AS ZEDAPH!!!!! SCREAMING LIKE I WAS JUST LISTENING TO GRIFTERS BONE

An art dump for the hermit archives au by @chrisrin, been really enjoying reading all the fics and plan to draw more

[sydneighsays]

Doodle

Timeline unclear but we ball

[m3ntal-hiatus]

death note but it’s a leitner. and martin kartin blackwood thinks it’s a cool, aesthetic journal to write poetry in.

[closethobbit]

MAG 004

Ah yes, theater tech. Always coming across cursed objects and weird people

[vastpotato]

Some of the Leitner’s in my moms house.

[anthonynotgreen]

SO UH. I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW THE ANSWER ON THIS ONE.

okay I've been seeing these around and I wanted to do one for the TMA cast. here's a random wheel (link) featuring every character I can remember with a speaking role + a couple extras who don't speak but are still important to the plot or that I thought would be funny

[intertexts]

FUCK mallard conway dude like so genuinely he isnt even that fucking evil like objectively but oh my GOD hes fucking built only from genes that make me mad as fuck whenever hes onscreen most fucking infuriating piece of shit

[multiversal-pudding]

Anyways I know spirit powers/she can repair herself or whatever but like I think Akira should’ve maybe gotten to hit Kakuya with a bat at least once

[strawberrysugasoba]

update i am on 100.5 and i personally don’t think i’d be able to handle going through all this shit in 2018. just could not be me, i would be unhinged, feral, rip me out the cage- 100.5?! are we serious right now. to leave on that note with that weird ass episode, it’s a mid season break- who posts on a mid season break? that’s when you update your socials but genuinely these guys go crazy. rustyquillgamingpodcast i am coming for you. when i find friends who are committed to letting their freak fly and role play i will be you. can’t want to listen and fall asleep to that but i can’t because i still have to finish tma. do not get me wrong i love love love the special, but i would loose it in 2018!! and the winners of the rusty fear’s competition congrats those stories were scrumdilyisous i love that, but what is going on at the archives guys :0! i have so many thoughts on that as well because so much has happened, and i came in so blind.

i literally had no clue, not even an inkling as to what tma was about except for some pinterest meme mentionings when i was in a deep welcome to nightvale phase. since then i’ve tried to keep spoilers to a minimum but i love drawing so i was looking for inspo on pinterest.

does tim get better? is he cured of his contain of being an asshole? i thought they were all friends before (kind sorta) all that weird shit was going on which makes me also wonder why jon’s always dogging on martin. aren’t those two supposed to be in love, don’t they confess and get married in the institute and have freak babies? idk what’s going on with them. but sasha is really just dead, and the two sasha thing only lasted a season? i felt like it would have ate to draw that out more. and then elias is hot, i love psychopaths (not really, maybe, this is just jokes!!), yes you slay that man with a pipe. trap innocent people into being a part of your cult. serve cunt and don’t get your hands dirty, i love you. and jon, please get it tf together. i thought we were much stronger than this. i held out hope you’d be chill and just rolled with the punches but you’re a pussy jon. jon you’re a pussy and i need you doing more statements because martin is too pathetic at the end! i do love martin though, you stand up for your potential love interest and say fuck you to dickhead (the most sensible guy around) tim. lastly what is with all the jurgen leitner hate? i love him, he just wanted experience shit bro let the man live. i used to make potions in my bathroom so if you want to play pretend monster and have a book collection go ahead. like my guy is chill asf.

i feel like i’ve ranted enough but i feel bad for the people who experienced this as it was coming out. y’all would have had to lock me up!!

[lisztomaniac-mp3]

my biggest red flag is that I have the entire jurgen leitner rant memorized and i haven't recited it at school in a very long time just so that one day i can go up to one of my friends who has NO IDEA who jurgen leitner is and recite it in full with full emotion and freak them out. or smth.

[thatpodcastkid]

Magnus Archives Relisten, MAG 4 Page Turner

Analysis of MAG 4, Page Turner. Spooky book time! Spoilers ahead.

Jurgen Leitner? Stupid idiot motherfucking Jurgen-

Sorry about that got possessed for a second. Anyway, first Leitner statement! Let's get into it while I try to control my rage.

Facts: Statement of Dominic Swain, regarding a book briefly in his possession in the winter of 2012.

Statement Notes: So much in this episode! First Gerry and Mary citing, first Leitner and Mike Crew mention. Crazy how relevant this episode was and we all had no way of knowing.

Starting simple, I would just like to say that as a theatre tech, Swain is so accurate and so real. "Doing a little bit of everything?" Real. Trying to see friends work but you also work at the same time? Real. Work place romance? Real. Not being able to relax when you see a play because you know all the tech stuff that can go wrong? Really real.

What I really loved about Dominic's statement though is the highlight of the ozone smell. He walks all around London with that book, shows it to Mary and Gerard, shows it to friends, and no one else mentions the smell. Yet, when he shows it to his ex Katherine Mendes, she said it "triggered her vertigo." This happens with a lot of the cursed items in the show: they don't have one general effect, but target the specific sources of fear and anxiety in the owner. Katherine apparently gets vertigo often, so The Vast would naturally trigger than height-based stressor. But Swain has a specific fear of lightning and the ozone smell because of what happened to Mike, so torturing him with that smell is the most effective way to cause fear in him.

There's also some really classic cursed object horror going on here that I love. Swain tries to sell the book the whole episode, but calls it "his book" fleeing Mary. Additionally, he says that he thought about giving it away, but felt that "wouldn't count." Very similar to Do Not Open here and a lot of cursed object horror in that there needs to be some kind of debt or reciprocity established rid one of the object.

I also just love the line "walking felt as natural as falling." It really conjures the idea that he can't control himself, that he's stumbling to Mary's shop uncontrollable just as he would fall through the sky: completely unable to stop.

Entity Alignment: Dominic translates "Ex Altiora" as "From Higher" or "Out of the Heights." That's just such insane Vast energy, the idea that whatever the book does to you will spawn from the open empty sky and you won't be able to stop it, just as you'd never be able to stop falling.

Obviously this episode is generally Vast aligned, but that painting of the Eye really freaked me out. "Grant us the sight that we may not know. Grant us the scent that we may not catch. Grant us the sound that we may not call.” This engraving very much encapsulates the point of the Eye and the Archive, and weirdly foreshadows what Jon goes through later. It is essentially saying, "Let me witness the fear and pain of others so that I don't have to experience it myself." Why would Gerry paint this? Especially given that a giant eye gives Elias direct view into his home. What is the goal?

Character Notes: Jurgen Leitner? Stupid idiot motherfucking Jurgen Leitner god damn fool book collecting dust eating-

Sorry what happened I blacked out.

Seriously though, my biggest takeaway about Leitner in this ep is that he doesn't spell his name with an umlaut like others. Why did Jonny include that detail. What does that do for me.

I do love that the only information Swain could find on him was that he lost a bidding war over a book to "GRbookworm1818" who is so obviously Gertrude it's hilarious.

I think it's so weird that Swain couldn't find anything online about him, though. Leitners are clearly around, so wouldn't there be some kind of chat room or reddit post about one? Builds my theory that the Entities or at least the Web has some influence over internet content in this universe that it doesn't have in The Magnus Protocol universe. In TMAGP, the OIAR sorts through things found in databases and the internet, but in TMA the Archive seems to be the only source of real supernatural info, proving that Elias or someone else was controlling the stream of information in a way that the entities aren't able to (yet) in TMAGP.

Let's turn away from the most hated character on the internet to talk about the most loved: Gerard Keay.

Our first intro to Gerry is death metal music blasting from his bedroom at two am which is just, so on brand.

(Also want to point out that Dominic Swain didn't realize it was 2 am until he heard the music. Missing time is another motif that keeps coming up in this show.)

I also forgot that Gerry painted in this universe, so it's nice to see they kept that connection in Protocol.

The thing that's truly key (no pun intended) about this episode though is the ritual Mary performs, blaming Gerry for her fake murder. I believe this is the episode she binds herself to the Skin Book, but I can't figure out when/how she would attach Gerry. Also, the case against him was thrown out because a "key piece of evidence was deemed inadmissible." Was this Gertrude pulling strings, Mary using magic influence, or some other powerful eldritch bureaucrat pulling for our boy? Who's to say.

Mike Crew is really only mentioned in this episode, but it did get me thinking about the relevance of scars in the show. His Lichtenberg scar influences who he is and what he becomes as an Avatar. Very similar to Daisy naming herself after her scar and pursuing law--which would lead to her becoming an Avatar--because of the event and injury. Also, Jon's "markings" are what allow him to start the Eyepocalypse. Physical manifestations and reminders of trauma shaping who we become really is a theme in this show.

And of course, Jon. He is such a terrible liar yet him believing in the supernatural was still somehow a plot twist. Proves how good a writer Jonny is, honestly. He doesn't believe in the supernatural, but is absolutely terrified of Leitners and is working on an "institute project" to eradicate them? I would love to know how this project worked. Was it just research? Was there a team dedicated to finding and collecting Leitners? He also mentions "the incident in 1994," is that when the library was destroyed? Or is just another terrible Leitner incident.

Crazy ep, one of my favorites. Let me know what you think!

[jazzically]

thoughts on various tma episodes

omfg now im thinking about this one hilarious exchange i read between nikola and jude in a fanfic and it was just all about how stupid the exterminator guy from mag 87 was

(the fic seems to have mistook megan for nikola but all the same)

mag 34: OOOH interesting. while i was trying to find the number of the episode i was looking for, i stumbled across the wiki, which says that anatomy class (34) was stranger-related?? i thought it was flesh (alas, my shallow first-impressions-are-probably-accurate mindset sabotaged me) but tbh stranger makes much more sense.

also i think it's perfect that breekon and hope are stranger-affiliated because that baaaasically makes them a neutral party as well. like nikola seems perfectly affable around most other avatars

omg i love her so much shes fantastic

mag 118: OHHHHH, i forgot i still had questions. yes ok so. i didnt know what jon was talking about at the end of season 3 about the anglerfish and "i thought it just ate the rest of the bodies" but wiki explained. thank you wiki youre a lifesaver. also GROSS. also that's fantastic i love love love the anglerfish cuz like it returns in s3 and has modest plot relevance and ties back to the very beginning but it's also not like the penultimate reveal or anything dramatic or full-circle-type cliche. (of course also bc i think the idea of a puppeteer monster is really freaking coollllll)

i dont think i appreciated s3 enough!!!! sigh

is it s2 or s3 when jon's been accused of murder and everybody avoids him? i forget

prolly s2 bc thats Spooky Tunnel Time: Gertrude's Body Is Apparently Under the Institute (and Basira!! Yay!!!!) (also Stupid Motherfucking Avatar of the Whore Jurgen Leitner. or is he s3 ??)

mag 54: OHHHHHH THE SPOOKY BODY IN THE BASEMENT WAS THE ANGLERFISH I SEEEEE (i loved that statement a lot but that random part at the end confused me up till now)

(if you cant tell im just going through a list of stranger-related statements now)

Listed on the article for the Stranger:

Hmm i rather thought 122 was the lonely or the extinction

mag 101

I FREAKING LOVE THIS ONE. RELISTENING!!!!! SO MUCH FUN!!!!!!! I LOVE YOU MICHAEL

i also adore michael's voice actor like. hiS LAUGH SOUNDS LIKE THAT NATURALLY IT'S FANTASTIC

the editing on michael's voice is GORGEOUS I LOVE HIM SO MUCH

i am the throat of delusion incarnate

i am michael

i was not always michael

i do not want to be michael

being michael stole the only purpose i have ever known

i just reALLY REALLY LOVE how in earlier episodes, the avatars seem to make no sense but then you listen back and realize that their ominous one-liners were not said just for the sake of intimidation but actually had meaning relevant to their patrons and canonical reason to be scarily and annoyingly cryptic i love it so much

gosh jon would u shut up and let my boy michael speak /j (despite being frustrated with the avatars and the mystery alongside jon at first listen, i now sympathize with the avatars' frustration with the archivist in earlier episodes. which. i mean. that's just amazing)

MAN AUGH THAT WAs sO GOOD rip michael im gonna miss you so much but also i love you helen im sorry i couldnt adjust to new things at first i adore them both

BTW MICHAELS DEATH SCREAM WAS INCREDIBLE possibly my favorite scream in the entire series

[zluty-spendlik]

So I started listening to tma like two weeks ago, and thought Id share some of my thoughts with you- first i texted them to my friend but then I started writing them over here

MAJOR TMA SPOILERS FOR S1 AND S2!!!

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More of season 2:

Honestly if i were Barnabas i would also do anything for my hot witch gf

I love Gertrude but her voice makes me want to sleep

I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH HOW MUCH THIS ISNT SASHA

Sasha would never say contientious

Idk why its funny to me that Michael couldve absolutely done some horror shit to Jon but he just stabs him

Also I feel so so bad for the woman that is now stuck in the weird corridors like imagine the terror and the hopelessness i hope her death cane quickly tbh

Also the vampires are back didnt expect that

I like Daisy

Ushanka is me in ict class honestly I hate ict class so much its super boring

Also the name ushanka is so freaking funny hes basically named "Funky hat" WHY

Yk I feel like someone needs to murder Salesa, hes a dangerous individual

The supplementals are the wildest shit EVER WDYM YOURE IN THE TUNNNELS GIRL

WHY IS THERE SO MANY THREADS THAT NEED UNRAVELING

Melanie is back lol

WOAH WAIT WHAT

WHAT

ITS REMARKABLY EASY TO BUY AN AXE IN CENTRAL LONDON??? WTF JON

JON DID YOU JUST FUCKING BREAK THE TABLE YOU IDIOT NOOO

HOLY SHIT HOOOLY SHIT STUFFS GOING DOWN

ARE TIM AND MARTIN IN THE CORRIDORS HOLY SHIT NO

Wait how did they make it out??

STAREMENT OF JURGEN LEITNER OHMYGOD

"We dont have time for you to have a breakdown archivist" yes we do give him a break

ELIAS WHAT ARE YOU--- OH

Soooo i guess leitner is dead?? Woah Elias truly doesnt care about being arrested huh

WAIT IS SASHA ACTUALLY DEAD?? NOOOO NONONO WAIT

I THOUGHT SHES JUST LOCKED UP SOMEWHERE SASHA NOOO

Okay that freaking scarred me ill miss sasha so much nooooo

I. I need a moment. (Sobbing)

Hhhhh okay ill just... god

I started s3 yesterday, I might follow up with my impressions

[littleguy-pi]

Sorry it’s been a long time since I listened to tma but. Why was it a bad thing that Elias killed Jurgen leitner? Id kill him too idk… wasn’t he like. A pervert sicko freak

[polkanight]

[Tma Ep 80 spoilers]

So...

Elias hates Jurgen Leitner's stupid book club and he's about to make a point about it.

I also just love how it makes him SO uncomfortable to be confronted with shit that he doesn't know or with people who can outsmart him... Gotta love the ceaseless control freak...

Bitch just goes all salty.

This goes to the pile of wip stuff I'll eventually finish

[aquietweirdo]

First listen to: MAG 110 - Creature Feature

Trans rep! You love to see it. Man I could listen to a whole other podcast where Alex J Newall is the narrator. He’s very good at doing the “disgruntled minimum wage employee” sort of voice. Jonathan Sims on the other hand is wonderful when he does the “bewitched by the horrors” thing. The statement of Jane Prentiss was a perfect example of that.

Every time the spider statements come up it always freaks me out. Here comes Jurgen Leitner still impacting the story. I know that most people hate him, both in and out of the story, but I would’ve loved to hear more from him. How would the story have changed if he stuck around a little longer?

That last bit was my favorite. Martin is so me. Just trying to keep the peace, make the best of a bad situation. I understand you Martin! I’m excited about the plan though. I know how that pans out and I’m ready to listen to it in all its glory.