#Its what made flower so fun so why not TD

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I will defend TD being in TPOT with my entire life you guys are so boring if you think she should be gone just because she's mean and causes problems

Also if you think she should be gone because she's already been in the other seasons what about Pin or Coiny or GB who have been in every season and are STILL in bfdia! her being in previous seasons does not make her less deserving of being in TPOT. She's not even on a team so it's not like shes taking a spot your favourite character could have had in voting. (maybe you say its unfair that she has plot armour but GOD its a fictional show fairity is based on what the creators write for her)

Also she's always had powers this isn't a new thing, but I love them going into it more! AND I loved seeing her push Eraser off the bridge this episode because you know what she did the EXACT same thing to flower. She always chooses the chance to win over allyship. but her being like that was never really discussed its just a part of her. and I would love to see TPOT dive into her character more! Which I imagine they will, otherwise why bring her back.

Yea she's been in a lot of seasons but she's also rarely looked into as a character, I want to see where TPOT is going with this shes so interesting I love her,

Actually I have more to say because when she 'betrays' flower let it also be known that Flower was not listening to her in that EP. Girl is getting dragged around, she looks so bored shopping is not her thing. And now in TPOT she is quite literally alone. There is no one on her team, she can't take any chances. Characteres also have consistently ingored her or talked over her as she can't talk. She's doing her best. I think she just doesn't really know how to talk to people, maybe that's why she seems genuinely regretful with Gelatin when she realizes he's hurt by her. Sighhh I can't wait to see where they go with her.

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Whether Quinton Flowers is a QB or RB, you should root for him

He rewrote USF’s record books with electrifying runs and throws. He’s beaten odds his entire life. Now he’ll try again.

If your team takes Quinton Flowers, it won’t happen until close to the end of the NFL Draft. But if it does, you’ll be getting one of the most exciting players on the board.

Here’s why the former USF QB is so awesome, why he might not be a quarterback in the NFL, and why you should hope for your team to land him anyway.

Flowers was one of the best and most fun college QBs of his time.

Flowers has 42 game, season, or career USF records. He’s the AAC’s all-time total offense leader (11,802 yards) and is one of six FBS players to reach 8,000 yards passing and 3,500 yards rushing. He’s one of six to have 70-plus pass TDs and 40-plus rush TDs. He led top-10 scoring offenses in each of his last two seasons. He started for three seasons and won 30 games, not that any NFL team in its right mind would draft on win totals.

In the running game, Flowers was a magician. He ran for 1,530 yards in his junior season and another 1,078 as a senior. The only quarterbacks who piled up more ground yards were Lamar Jackson, Arizona’s Khalil Tate, and guys from triple-option teams. Often, he looked like he was playing a video game.

Flowers could chuck the rock, too. His arm wasn’t what made him special, but he still finished in the top 25 in passer rating twice in three years. (The other year, 2017, he was 36th, while in a new offense that didn’t always suit his strengths). He finished in the top 25 in yards per throw in each of his three years as a starter. USF was always a run-first team, but Flowers threw plenty (354 times in 12 games as a senior) and had better efficiency numbers than certain other Group of 5 quarterbacks who are going to be picked in the top 10. Flowers made a few pretty throws, too.

“There’s a lot I can bring to the game,” Flowers told reporters at the NFL Combine in March. “My arm, my legs, my mobility to get out of the pocket and make things happen. I look at myself as a playmaker. I’m a guy who always used to watch Michael Vick and tried to be the best I could be.”

Media evaluators aren’t certain Flowers can play QB.

At the combine, Flowers said it was “kind of a 50/50 thing” between teams who wanted to scout him at quarterback and running back. Flowers said he’d be OK with changing positions at some point, but he’d rather not do it immediately.

“I just want a shot first,” he said. “At quarterback.”

Commentators have been widely skeptical that Flowers can play quarterback as a professional and have suggested a switch. A sampling:

NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein writes that moving to running back is Flowers’ “best shot at playing in the league,” as Flowers “doesn’t show the consistency or accuracy needed as a passer to play that position in the NFL.”

Scouting consultant Chris Landry says, “I don’t see enough consistent passing skills for him to be a quarterback. But I would definitely give him a shot.”

And ESPN’s Mel Kiper:

Mel Kiper, on Quinton Flowers' chances at making an NFL roster at spot other than QB: "That'll be determined by the workouts. ... If you can show it in an all-star game, it really benefits you, 'cause they want to see if you can make that position change."

— Joey Knight (@TBTimes_Bulls) January 18, 2018

At the combine, Flowers ran the 40-yard dash in 4.63 seconds. That was faster than any quarterback in attendance, though Lamar Jackson didn’t run, and it beat nine of 26 running backs. He was 5’10 and 214 pounds, four inches shorter than Jackson and the average NFL QB. Flowers worked out some with the running backs in Indianapolis. That kind of thing typically happens at the request of teams at the event.

Flowers doesn’t have a receiver’s build, so if he leaves QB, it has to be for running back or kick returner.

Teams floating Flowers as a running back isn’t new. When he was a recruit deciding between schools five years ago, plenty of them didn’t want him to play quarterback.

“Florida wanted me to play quarterback, but I just had a feeling they were going to switch my position just because I just asked a simple question: ‘Can you bring me (to meet) the quarterback coach?’ and they never did. So I knew they didn’t believe in me,” Flowers told reporters at the combine. The Gators’ disbelief in Flowers’ arm turned out to be USF’s gain.

People who know Flowers speak of him with reverence.

“He’s gonna make some GM look like a genius,” Willie Taggart, one of his head coaches at USF, told the Tampa Bay Times.

He can’t play if you tell him to be Tom Brady. … He’s always been that kid, he finds a way to get it done. Here’s my question: You can’t say he can’t play quarterback. He hasn’t shown that he can’t.

”Even when he came in (to USF) they were saying, ‘He’s too short, he can’t see over the line.’ He did that fairly well. So to me, give him an opportunity, let him show that he can’t. Don’t just set limitations on him.”

Here’s what former USF defensive lineman Deadrin Senat said when I asked him what Flowers would bring to the NFL:

“Quinton is a game-changer,” a line Senat kept repeating. “I think whoever takes him is gonna be a lucky person. He’s a workaholic. He’s a great person, and he’s athletic. People see him as a running back or a slot guy, but I think he’s a nice little quarterback. But it’s not my judgment to say, but whatever team takes him, day one, they’re gonna get a full athlete who can do a lot of things.”

Whatever his position or how long he stays in the league, Flowers is one of this draft’s easiest players to root for.

Nobody has a hard time cheering on a lightning-bolt quarterback from a mid-major conference who’s achieved all Flowers has.

But more importantly, Flowers has gotten through nightmare after nightmare to be where he is now.

Flowers is more mature than any 23-year-old should have to be. His father died in a shooting when Flowers was 7. His mother died of cancer when he was 17. A stepbrother died in a shooting when he was was 20. He has kept going through all of it.

Maybe Flowers won’t stick for long in the NFL. It already seems doubtful that he’ll get an extended shot at quarterback. But if he does, the sport will be more enjoyable for it.

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The Top Whatever: Oklahoma’s No. 1 because Baker Mayfield will light you up with a fullback, if need be

A weekly ranking of only the teams that must be ranked, and not a single team more. (If you’re looking for the top 25 polls, they’re over here.)

1. Oklahoma

The entire point of the Top Whatever is to only talk about the teams you want to talk about, based on what they did this week. So it’s time to talk about Oklahoma and how you do not ever want to piss off Baker Mayfield in a revenge or underdog game scenario, ever, because he will beat you 31-16 at home, and there’s nothing you can do about it.

On the road, without a game-breaking receiver or running back to lean on, and playing against a defense stocked with nothing but four- and five-star talent, Mayfield singlehandedly beat the Ohio State Buckeyes. That’s a dramatic conclusion for a game played as a team sport, but it’s the only place to end up after watching.

There are numbers, if you want them. His run game didn’t average three yards a carry; his offensive line did their best, but still allowed pressure in the pocket from Sam Hubbard and the rest of the Buckeyes’ front seven; his leading receiver was Dimitri Flowers, an H-back/fullback hybrid who, 30 years ago, would have been cracking heads with a linebacker on I-formation run plays. The Sooners won, and their leading receiver was a fullback.

That happened in part because Lincoln Riley, the first year head coach and former offensive coordinator, coached circles around whatever the Ohio State defense was trying to do. When the fullback hits you for receiver yardage, tight ends keep popping up uncovered down field, and motions and fakes free receivers gliding down the seams, you’re being outschemed. Ohio State has a serious problem in its secondary, true — Indiana putting up big yardage proved that — but it takes real creativity to allow 386 passing yards to a team without dominant receiving threats. The Sooners coaching staff deserves some credit there.

It also happened because Mayfield was not only insanely accurate, but insanely confident. He kept plays alive with his feet, often by staying within the pocket, playing hopscotch with rushers until someone broke free. Mayfield did little on the ground in terms of numbers, finishing with minus five yards himself, but that wasn’t the point. His ability to escape pressure showed up in receiving yards down the field,.

On the drive to put OU up 17-13 in the third, Mayfield rolled out, evaded a defensive end, and laced a pass to receiver Mykel Jones over and through coverage he a.) created by rolling right, drawing the defense just a few precious feet forward and b.) beat with a perfect pass he ripped off on the run.

He was flawless, and it should have been so much worse. It really should have been so much worse, Ohio State. The Sooners fumbled twice in the first half, killing early scoring opportunities. The Sooners outgained Ohio State by 140 yards.

The Buckeyes’ offense reverted to 2016 form, with an inability to generate anything like a vertical passing game. A quick review of the tape reveals no one was open, but that’s not really an excuse, is it? After all, Oklahoma tore y’all up with a fullback. To be fair: he looked just as surprised as you were, which is just one of the things that made this game so much fun to watch.

Oklahoma’s No. 1 this week; possibly better teams who bore me aren’t.

2. Alabama

Beat Fresno State 41-10, still basically scrimmaging for the next two weeks until they play Vanderbilt, then Ole Miss. Maybe Alabama is scrimmaging for the next month, actually, now that I wrote it all down like that.

3. Lamar Jackson

A 47-35 win over UNC might be Lamar Jackson’s most impressive game yet: controlled in the pocket, measured with his scrambles, distributing the ball well, and yet still capable of breathtaking athleticism. The real terror is that Jackson had over 500 yards of offense by himself, accounted for six TDs, but still seems like he’s rising up the ladder of his potential.

The only quibble might be noting that UNC’s defense is so bad, it lost to Cal at home, and at this point seems more like an accomplice than something designed to stop anyone. Still: Any ranking should list Lamar Jackson. Louisville is along for the ride, and he’s steering.

4. Clemson

A 14-6 win over Auburn straight from bowels of bad, dark, 1980s SEC games. Let’s not talk about it any more than is absolutely necessary. Clemson QB Kelly Bryant played reasonably well against a vicious Auburn defense, the Clemson run game needs serious work, and Clemson’s talented and coming along. That’s about what everyone should expect of a retooling national champion, and everyone should remain really reasonable about this, as long as they’re facing offenses as bad as Auburn’s.

Auburn’s offense has caught some kind of wasting disease. It had 117 total yards, 23 of them on a single play. Every single play from this game on official Auburn game footage should be erased. Jarrett Stidham should assume a new identity. Everyone should start their lives over. You never watched this game, and neither did I.

5. USC

Get up here, Trojans. It’s possible to imagine USC outgunning Stanford in a shootout, but the shocking thing about a 42-24 win over the Cardinal in the Coliseum? USC ran all over, had two rushers go for over 100 yards each, and effectively ended the game by mashing out Stanford in the fourth quarter. The Trojan defense did so well, Stanford ended up passing 28 times and running just 26 times, which is antithetical to pretty much everything modern Stanford football considers holy.

Sam Darnold threw for four TDs and bounced back from a mediocre game against Western Michigan; Ronald Jones II runs like he hates you, and that is why you should love him.

6. Michigan

Not sweating an often frustrating, 36-14 win over Cincinnati because a.) Cincy’s defense is going to frustrate a lot of people this year, b.) Michigan’s offense was going to be a work in progress this season, and c.) Cincy did cut the lead to 17-14 in the third quarter, but the Wolverines took control and pulled away nicely.

They’re not perfect; it’s just that playing Florida’s offense can make you look that way. Michigan is learning on the job, and that means mistakes, and if you’re going to make them, you want to make them against Cincinnati, and not, yanno, an increasingly dangerous Purdue in two weeks. Yes, I typed “increasingly dangerous Purdue.” That’s a thing now, and we’ll all have to get used to it.

7. Penn State

It’s so hard to decide what to take away from beating a team like Pitt 33-14. Penn State let Pitt dominate time of possession, but also allowed only 14 points. They got turnovers off Pitt, but judging from Max Browne’s armpunts on Saturday, that isn’t too hard? They won easily and didn’t get Saquon Barkley hurt, and that counts for a rousing success in a potentially tricky non-conference game in Week 2.

Also, they blew up a Pitt screen for a safety. That’s just our way of saying Pitt ran a screen in their own end zone and that no one should ever stop laughing about it.

8. Virginia Tech

A learning experience for young QB Josh Jackson in a 27-0 win over the Blue Hens of Delaware. The learning is that scoring more than 30 points against even Delaware is really, really hard if you can’t run the ball. Eighty-one team rushing yards against an FCS team is NOT confidence-inspiring — but it’s definitely learning.

9. Oklahoma State

Nothing to note from a situationally strange — who goes to South Alabama? — but otherwise breezy, 44-7 blowout of the USA Jaguars. The Pokes haven’t played a bit of bad football through two games against inferior competition, and they also really haven’t played anyone. Oklahoma State plays Pitt in Week 3 and TCU in Week 4, so ... yeah, you’ll have to wait on how they look against TCU for a real look at their potential.

Note: Pitt held the ball for almost 40 minutes against Penn State, picked up 24 first downs, and only scored 14 points. Pitt is running the Terrence Malick offense right now: it might not have a lot of points, but it will take forever to get to them.

10. Wisconsin

Twenty-nine first downs and a procedural, 31-14 crushing of FAU. How do you get 29 first downs and only score 31 points? SHOW US THE SEX.

ESPN

DON’T RUSH TO THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE, YOU MIGHT BREAK A SWEAT

AHHHHHHH, that’s the sex. Wisconsin also turned the ball over twice, killing two scoring opportunities, but for the most part, the Badgers just lined up and power cleaned FAU’s defense for three hours. Wisconsin doesn’t believe in doing cardio, and results to this point more than back up that belief.

11. Georgia?

The question mark is for “what is beating Notre Dame worth?” in a sloppy 20-19 game that was less gunfight, and more two people with guns taking turns shooting themselves in the feet in front of an audience. Still a win, and the impressive parts were holding Notre Dame to under 300 yards and eking out enough on offense with backup quarterback Jake Fromm starting on the road.

12. LSU

45-10 over UT-Chattanooga. In the absence of any useful information from this game, here is an Etch-A-Sketch portrait of Ed Orgeron.

okay, as requested by @PFTCommenter: ed orgeron pouring a redbull zero into mike the tiger's dish http://pic.twitter.com/RZXi6zTFMa

— Mina Kimes (@minakimes) September 10, 2017

13. Washington

Beat FCS Montana, 63-7.

Still shook from watching the Huskies get dominated along the line by Rutgers, which just gave Eastern Michigan its first-ever win against a Power 5 team. EMU QB Brogan Roback has a transitive respectable showing against the Huskies now, and I’m not comfortable with that at all.

ANYONE ELSE?

No, and being undefeated isn’t enough to get mentioned, because 2-0 is undefeated right now. Washington State is undefeated. If you watched whatever that triple OT game against Boise State at 2:30 a.m. ET on Sunday was, then you understand exactly what I mean by this.