#Evil westallen

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I like how WestAllen ended in the Flash with Nora's birth. The part where they're holding hands right before her birth and yellow and purple lightning zaps between them is done really well... Now, I don't particularly ship SnowBarry, but I do find the idea cute sometimes because of the Frost sisters, and how well done the writers wrote her scripts. I'm gonna disregard the whole Khione thing in my comparison of both ships which is canon WestAllen and AU SnowBarry from my perspective.

In a SnowBarry AU, Caitlin would be Barry’s “lightning rod”.

Barry would've been married to OG Caitlin (if you know what I mean) by the time they split in S6. At least following the timeline of how WestAllen generally progressed throughout the show. Like, as in, Barry's proposal of "Running Home to You" would be directed towards Caitlin instead of Iris in S3, SnowBarry marriage in S4, etc etc... Maybe it would be Caitlin SnowAllen if they decide to hyphenate?

Anyways, AU SnowBarry or canon WestAllen, I do wish they gave Caitlin/Frost more screentime especially after they split in S6. I would take the Frost sisters in a heartbeat instead of Cecile or Allegra.

S2 Barry and Jay would be “fighting” over Caitlin lol. Or maybe not. But he would be hella protective when Zoom kidnaps her.

In S3, Caitlin turned Killer Frost does end up working with Savitar.. imagine just how desperate Barry would be to keep her from going all "Frosty" because Caitlin is his fiancee, just as desperate as he was with trying to save Iris from Savitar in canon. I think instead of the focus on Iris, a majority of SnowBarry AU’s base plot line would include Barry trying to save Caitlin from her evil self? Like in that one episode where he spoke to Frost, and allowed her to try to kill him because he knows she’s still Caitlin deep down. OR it could be both: Savitar’s tryna kill her because she’s Barry’s “lightning rod” in this SnowBarry AU instead of them joining up.

Let’s say Barry still goes into the Speedforce in this SnowBary AU. Her heartbreak would be another catalyst/reason as to why Caitlin turned into her Frosty self between S3 and S4 to work for Amunet. In canon 4x01, Killer Frost does come back to the team as Caitlin to help Barry come out of the Speedforce so don't gotta "AU" that part. I know they "balanced out" the whole Caitlin/Frost thing in S4, and that was awesome to watch.

Loved the cuteness where “Caity” and Frost would communicate with each other in little sticky notes. Since Barry and Caitlin would be married by that time, maybe Frost writes sticky notes to Barry too?

Moving onto S5.. How would it go with Caitlin raising Nora alone in the future? Caitlin is a geneticist/doctor whereas Iris is a news reporter.. I think with Caitlin’s doctor/biochemist, I don't think she'd put a power dampening chip inside Nora. Nora would have Frost (split or not) to protect/guide her as well as the rest of the team. Maybe in SnowBarry S5, Nora would've grown up knowing that her father is the Flash from the start. 5x18 would've shown Caitlin and Nora having a better mother-daughter relationship than 5x18 canon Iris and Nora. Would she still go to Thawne then? Maybe so because of godspeed and he’s the only other speedster around and then after what happened to Lia? Maybe so.

Since Nora still wouldn’t have ever met Barry, Thawne could’ve still manipulated her with the whole Cicada dagger thing so she travels back in time. One thing for sure: she wouldn’t be all pissy towards Iris lol. But my poor girl Nora would’ve still vanished in S5 finale :(

When Caitlin splits in S6, imagine how happy Frost would be have her own body, but also to be there to support SnowBarry marriage in person, and be able to interact with both Barry and Caitlin at the same time. Speaking of the Frost sisters, what would Nora call Frost? Aunt Frost? Something like that?

Yep, Caitlin and Frost never dies in this particular SnowBarry AU. It was the only stupid thing the writers did for her character.

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Oooo I’d love some background info on i hate (what i’ve become) (or anything else you want to say about it) because I am OBSESSED with that fic (the ANGSTTTTTTT)

OOOOOH I will certainly try to give what background I can!

Admittedly that's one I wrote on a whim without a ton of context behind it, and it's not situated at a specific point in s3 because...for obvious reasons, it's very canon-divergent in many ways, and even I don't know the full details of how 😅 but what I can do is expand on the Saveddie/Thallen dynamic in this fic (and it turns out I have a lot to say about them lol so see below the cut for my rambling thoughts):

Eddie is revived from the dead! This isn't really a secret in the fic ofc—Eddie refers readily to his death as an event that did happen (“Is that why you didn't bother to remember me?” Eddie’s eyes flashed. “Why you were so fixated on Iris the moment I died—why you held back on moving on because she’s not Iris, I guess?”), and Savitar also references it as his own doing (“Didn’t you wonder who brought Eddie back, Barry? Surely you must’ve had your theories.” Savitar smirked. “Did you suspect for even one second that it was actually a version of you? A better version, who isn’t such a spineless coward?”)

Also, you may wonder, what's Savitar's deal? Does he really love Eddie? Is he just using him? The answer is...both! The framing for this fic is that if Eddie hadn't died, Barry might've been brave enough to confess to him, and Westhallen perhaps would've happened...but alas, he did die, and Barry's feelings remained unresolved and screaming in his heart. And ofc...when Savitar is born, he's Barry, so those feelings are screaming in his heart too. He has two goals: a) pretend to kill Iris and preserve his existence, but secretly steal her away/revive her for himself*...and b) revive Eddie so he can finally act on those feelings he never even confessed (oh Savitar...someone must've slept through reading Great Gatsby in English class, or you'd know better!). And since he hops back and forth in time, between the past and the future...he knows that Eddie has the potential for great power as Cobalt Blue, could've taken up the mantle if he hadn't died.

So he revives Eddie and begins seducing him, telling him all about Westallen and painting Barry in the worst possible light (he still has a soft spot for Iris, so he doesn't say as much bad about her—remember, he wants to force Westhallen into existence, wants both Eddie and Iris by his side, so he won't badmouth the love of his life. He will badmouth Barry plenty though—you know how in s9, Eddie's furious at Barry for "stealing" his fiancée? Here, that's something Savitar plants in his head.

Unlike s9 though, Eddie isn't corrupted by an external cosmic force, and he loves Barry and Iris, so he pushes back on this. But Savitar knows exactly how to play on his heartstrings...and pouring in some sympathy for himself gets Eddie on his side (a version of Barry who's thrown away/disregarded by the entire Team after Iris dies? Who's mistreated even by Barry himself? Eddie's furious at the thought). Savitar, also, is not nearly as shy as Barry was, confessing his feelings readily...and acting on them, much to Eddie's giddy delight (his own description) and Savitar's smugness.

Things sour after a while, though. Savitar's possessiveness is far removed from Barry's selfless love, and Eddie notices. He also, however, notices how ruthless Savitar is in defense of what he wants...and figures out very quickly that if he pushes too much, he pisses Savitar off—and Eddie's not so keen to piss off another evil speedster. Though Savitar also complicates this because when he picks up on Eddie's fear, he tones down the aggression and acts more like the sweet, gentle Barry Eddie loved. So on the one hand, Eddie wants to leave, find his way to Team Flash and beg for their help...but on the other, he doesn't want to piss off Savitar, he still has love and sympathy for Savitar due to his similarities to Barry...and he still remembers what Savitar told him about Team Flash mistreating him in the future (when Eddie's particularly doubtful, Savitar reminds him about this, playing up his sympathetic backstory...and ofc it works, keeping those doubts at bay)

Seeing Barry again, though? That opens a floodgate that Eddie is hard-pressed to close again. Seeing the real Barry, desperate and pleading and hopeful—Eddie wants to take his hand and ride into the sunset with him...and with Iris too, when Barry brings her up. But Savitar's ironclad grip on him (literal as well as figurative) presents an obstacle. Even if Eddie wanted to leave (which he does, he realizes as he looks into Barry's eyes, he really, really does), he fears what Savitar might do if Eddie shows too much willingness to leave—maybe not to him, but to Barry. Eddie's seen an evil speedster try to kill Barry before...and although Savitar can't kill Barry, he could still do plenty else. He's a man out of time, older than Barry by 7 years and centuries too...that's terrifying. Eddie doesn't even have a gun, let alone powers (after all, as Savitar told him, what would Eddie need a gun for, when his significant other is the most powerful being in the multiverse?)

But ofc Eddie can't let on. So he keeps the mask up, he's cold to Barry...he convinces Barry he's a lost cause, even as his heart is screaming at him to go after Barry, screw the consequences. But he can't say "screw the consequences", he can't risk harm to Barry, so he keeps up the act and tries not to shed tears about it.

Savitar is delighted about this, of course...but Eddie still has doubts. Minor doubts, of course—Savitar can airbrush over those with more manipulation, and he does (“All Bivolo does,” Savitar said with a sigh, “is amplify feelings that already exist. Barry did love you—otherwise I wouldn’t—but more than that, he hated you all along. He only needed a little push to show you exactly how he felt.” He smiled. “Not unlike you and me...though I’d say that turned out much better for us.”)

And then...Savitar gives Eddie something as a reward (or rather, he promises to): a way to defend himself. The implication, ofc, being that he's going to turn Eddie into Cobalt Blue.

*this never comes up in the oneshot, but it's implicit in almost everything Savitar-related I write, and it's my headcanon for him

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❤️💛💚💖 for the Flash 👀

❤: Which character do you think is the most egregiously mischaracterized by the fandom?

I feel like egregiously it has to be Iris. It might be a minority of people but it's 2024 and I still see anti Iris tags when looking for fic from people cross in canon Barry ended up with his wife. Arrow did do the s1 seems to be setting up the comic canon couple and then dropped it, but Westallen was always endgame for Flash, and Candice Patton was excellent in her role.

There's also this thing I have noticed which partly ties into the next question because I very rarely read Barry/Snart fics, but occasionally I do open one and oh Leonard's secretly been a good guy the whole time, this is a rob the rich to feed the poor situation, he's giving back to the community and like, I get it. They don't want to be writing the killed people on screen in his first appearance Snart but his redemption arc predominantly happens over on Legends and then he's not in Central to be dating Barry, but sometimes I do look at the Snart characterisation and wonder if they have ever looked up comics Hartley Rathaway, I think they would like him.

💛: What is a popular ship you just can't get behind, and why?

Barry/Snart I think there have been a few treated Iris badly fics that put me off, so I have to be in a specific mood and I'm very quick to back out if Iris is treated badly, but it won't completely put me off a fic like it used to, it's just not really something I'm super interested in.

Likewise Cisco/Harry. I don't really have a why, it's just not a ship I have any interest in

💚: What does everyone else get wrong about your favorite character?

I think canon is actually the thing to blame, to justify needing Team Flash Barry's own intelligence and maybe competance is sometimes forgotten about. S5 has a good example: "yes we definitely need this new Wells to investigate because the CSI, investigative reporter, detective, and PI we already have here can't do it for some reason"

💖: What is your biggest unpopular opinion about the series?

I don't know if this one is unpopular, but I'm bringing up the ableism in the Flash and the wider Arrowverse again. Compare DeVoe giving himself powers for evil reasons which leaves him needing a wheelchair versus Felicity gets a microchip to fix her paralysis. Breaking their own rules to give Savitar Barry a facial disfigurement versus now reformed Leonard Snart getting to fully regrow an amputated hand. DID is a convient excuse because we can't just bring Caitlin back for s4 with no consequences after what she did in s3. Ignore how we already did the split personalities but one is bad in s3 with Frankie/Magenta. Hartley's going to turn his hearing aids into bombs in s1 then we'll just forget about the tinnitus forever I guess. The mental health care system on Earth-2 is apparently like that and that's normal. I'm sure there's so many more examples.

Thank you!

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okay I know I've talked about evil power couple westallen before but hear me out

evil power polycule barriscowesthawne

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I always thought the show found its footing again with “Crisis” season - I genuinely enjoyed the Mirror Arc (though I was yelling at my TV the longer Iris was trapped). And after the COVID hiatus - it seemed like the writers lost their damn minds - the Forces, Armageddon, CHILLBLAINE, Frost’s arrest and trial, etc. I mean take the finale - Barry being sent back to the day his mom died was the best part. But the rest had good concepts- like Eddie coming back and becoming Cobalt Blue over his bitterness his sacrifice was meaningless plus the evil speedste team up- but it was badly paced and executed with a LOT of filler ya know

Absolutely. And they brought in so many characters only to drop them. A whole season could’ve been dedicated to Cobalt Blue storyline. We would’ve ate that up. The pacing definitely was the issue. Team Flash probably should’ve been dissolved once Cisco left. We could’ve had a time jump — I really wanted to see Westallen as parents to young speedsters there was so much untapped potential there.

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also bc i've been having westallen sideplot in dndb i've started getting majorly tempted to polish up and post the first chapter of my first ever purely westallen fic, which is based on the movie don't worry darling, starring harry styles and florence pugh, but those are the bad, evil thoughts talking, we don't listen to those. i won't be seduced

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I mean...bars

What show doesn't have the leads date other people? No one can explain. He gets his feet held to the fire for doing what people do when they are single. It was 3 women including Kory. One wasn't even present day and had a man the entire time she was here. Jinx was not his girlfriend. Like who gives a shit? Also say he did love Babs or Kory said she loved Faddei...AND? Do they get you can love more than one person in a lifetime?

Do they know people? Did every last married couple they know all get married as virgins?

People keep bringing up Westallen okay fine lets talk about them. Do they know Barry had two serious relationships before he got with Iris? Do they realize Iris was engaged and fully intended to marry Eddie and only didn't because he died? Do they realize Westallen fans don't give a shit because they know that they won? Also you there isn't a evil version of Dick who murdered Kory.

That's not shade at Westallen I'm just saying it's par for the course. Dick shouldn’t be punished for finding out Kory is his soulmate through some trial and error. And frankly Justin was a bigger threat than Dawn because Kory was actually trying to date Justin LOL. I challenge people to rewatch season 2 and look at the way Dick interacted with Dawn present day. He wanted her to leave him TF alone LMAO.

If not for the fact Kory isnt jealous or insecure (and likely knows she can have him at any given moment) she also sees his blatant reluctance to be around Dawn or Jinx or go to the dang Gala with Babs. She's not dumb.

But yeah his flaws for me is that he's hardheaded, too hard on himself, and a grumpy brat sometimes. Big whoop.

It's not that deep. Give him a break.

I feel like people expected too much of Dick in the fandom. Like they wanted him to be perfect and I dont get that expectation. He's just a man.

Yeah like Dick had a lot of character growth. Him getting weird about family dying is something that may never change. I dont even think thats a big deal because frankly it makes sense that it would trigger him. He doesn't handle death or grieve in a healthy way. We saw that when he was grieving Garth and Joey in s1&2 he became cold and angry. Same with Hank in s3. And then s4 with Kory he became extremely avoidant. He couldn't bring himself to say goodbye because he can't handle it. But the growth here is that he no longer self-isolates. He couldn’t talk about it and that may never change. Death is just hard for him and that's okay.

Kory is still always ready to give up her happiness for her duty, Rachel still feels a way about her powers and being Trigon's daughter, Conner is still easy to manipulate, Tim still tries too hard to prove himself, Gar is still too nice....its fine.

Character growth doesn't mean you end up being perfect and unaffected by everything. This is just their personalities and things they struggle with. Makes them feel real.

Dick is now openly affectionate and happier than he's ever been. Opening himself up and knowing the new Titans has made him a better man. Kory and Mar'i gave him a reason to keep being that man.

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A full(ish) outline of my ‘Evil WestAllen’ AU or Earth 6. It's kinda long. 

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  On Earth 6, 11-year-old Bartholomew Henry Allen awakens to a ruckus downstairs only to go and see his mother encompassed in a whirlwind of electricity and color. He calls out as his parents scream for him to leave. And there he sees, the Yellow Man thrust his hand into his mother’s chest before finding himself down the block from home.

As he makes it back he hears police sirens and screeching tires. He watches his father, stunned and resigned, get put in the back of a police car. He goes inside and sees Mr. West, a family friend, standing over something covered in a blanket.

Something-  His mom.

He knows. He knows she’s under the blanket.

  And Mr. West turns, sees him, and rushes to move him out of the house. Away from the crime scene. Away from his mother. And wasn’t that what his mother told him last? To leave?

 Months later he is living with the Wests, with Joe and Iris, but his father is in jail. His father who did nothing. Who was innocent. But he pleaded guilty. Barry saw him plead guilty. Saw him in a prison jumpsuit, in that courtroom. Saw him look anywhere but at Barry.

 And he had tried to help. Barry told them everything. The lightning, the wind, his mother and the Man in Yellow. But no one believed him. No one truely let him finish. They only doubted him. Telling him what he did and did not know.

  He couldn’t have seen the crime, all the police officers saw him run from down the street. He wasn’t in the house, he must have ran away when he heard his father attack his mother. There was no way a Man in Yellow stabbed his mother with his hand. It was ridiculous! Except it wasn’t.

 And he tried to see his father. Ask him why he lied. Why he wanted to be in jail. Why he would rather be in prison than with his son. But each time he would be stopped. Each time Joe West would force him back. He’d sit him down and tell him he couldn’t see his father. Because he was dangerous. Because he was a criminal. Because he didn’t deserve it.

 And Joe, much like every officer and detective, didn’t believe him. He believed his father was a monster and kept Barry from visiting.

  Each time he did get closer. Until, finally, he got to his father. Finally, his father laid eyes on Barry. In the months since the crime Barry was looking at his father in the eyes. Yet, his father sat down, picked up the phone and told him to leave.

  He shouldn’t be here, he shouldn’t have come, he should just forget about him, his father. And then he got up, and left. He left Barry there, sitting in the plastic chair on the other side of a plastic window in a cold concrete room inside a prison.

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 At 6 years old Iris Ann West loses her mother. Her mother had been sick for weeks, on and off for years. And one day she wakes up to see her mother gone. Maybe she went out, her father doesn’t seem too bothered. But later that week her father sits her down, and  tells her her mother died. And she cries.

 But life keeps going and nothing happens. They move some her mother’s things but there’s no funeral. Dead people have a funeral, right? And she asks her teachers, and they say, sometimes people have Wakes or Memoerials.

Her father does neither.

  So, at 6, her mother is just gone. And she loves her father. He was a cop, a detective, a hero who fought bad guys. So he couldn’t be wrong.

  And then her bestfriend loses everything. And now he lives with them. And then she wonders, a man who she knew, a man who was nothing but good to her was now a murderer. Not just a murderer, but someone who killed his wife. His love. Something, Iris thought, was nothing but evil. And her father agreed. He told her he did it. He put him in jail himself!

  But, Barry didn’t. Barry told her what he saw, what really happened and, truly? Really truly? Iris believed Barry.

  At 15, she hears her father talking to Barry’s therapist. He was worried, too many fights, too many bloody noses, and broken wrists. She knows she shouldn’t listen. But its Barry. Barry tells her everything, more than the therapist espesially. So she listens, because what if her father tries to send Barry away again? Another “Summer Camp” full of doctors and bodyguards. Another few months of being alone.

 She asks, what about a mother figure? Well, he has Iris, but what about a good female role model? Iris almosts gets caught when she snorts at that. Barry had a mother, and he’d never take some replacement. But thats not important. What is, is that her father admits its been hard since her mother left.

Left.

 And Iris knew her father, he said it like that for a reason. So one night, when her dad was asleep, she searches the Internet. And thats when she saw it. Her mother. Her mother after 9 years.

Francine West. 39. Mother. Of a Son.

Alive.

 Iris yells, and raves and sobs and screams but in the end, he lied. Her father lied to her. A good man who believed in justice and honor lied to her about her mother. But worse, he looks her in the eye, and tells her to not reach out. She left, and she didn’t deserve Iris’ love.

He was right. She didn’t. Neither did he.

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  At 16, Iris decides to reach out to her brother, not because she cares, but because her mother doesn’t deserve to have a family after leaving Iris’. Later they move back to Central, and Wally slowly joins Iris and Barry’s little bond.

  During Prom, Iris goes with a girl covered in piercings and Barry takes an older boy with a record. Francine looks uncomfortable as all hell, and Joe looks one second from getting into a fist fight. Neither of them get home before 1 in the morning, and they do it in a police car.

  As collage approaches Barry decides to go to Med School, he’ll take after his father if it kills him. Iris decides to go for law. They leave together, far from Central and there they meet other students from the area. One is Political Science major Lisa Snart, Iris’ PA for her floor. Soon, as things tend to be, they grow close. Lisa tells them about her brother, Leonard, who died young, protecting Lisa from their crooked cop of a father. Of what she saw, of dirty cops and criminals working together. The law wasn’t on their side. Not Barry’s, not Lisa’s and definately not Leonard’s.

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  They all go back to Central, Barry becoming a surgeon and Iris a lawyer. On that day, December 11, the S.T.A.R. Labs particle accelerator explodes, sending chaos through the city. At that time Iris is driving with her father, in a rare moment of happiness. Then the storm starts, and a wave of chaos begins. A car in front of them swerves and in an instance, multiple cars are crashing and flying. Iris and Joe included. As their car stops, Iris realizes she’s stuck. Pinned by the car and varying metal parts inbedded into her body she sees her father take his last breathe. She stays there for hours, barely concious, and stews. Her father, who moments ago was actually having a nice time with her, is dead. Her father who she loved and hated in equal measure. Who, maybe, just maybe was finally reconnecting with her. Who she might have finally forgiven.

 Barry is in the hospital when it happens. Moving between emergancies, he stops for a breathe. And the power goes off. The silence lasts a moment before everyone is scrambling to check on patients. Everyone, but Barry. Because he knows something bad has happened.

  Later Iris is brought in for surgury and, days later, has yet to wake up. As Barry watches he feels a knot of bitterness and resentment tighten in his chest. They, the hospital staff, tell him to leave. He can’t help. And he watches Wally and Francine cry over his Iris. Francine doesn’t deserve to cry. If nothing else she should be the one in the bed. Iris is worth 100 of Francine.

  Iris is out for 7 months. In that time Barry turns back to their, Iris and his, old criminal conntacts. They are small, and few but are in no way insignificant. He builds it, and reaches out. He sees the growing number of freaks and weirdos who can do things they shouldn’t. With that, he makes enemies and allies alike.

   One of those is Talia Al Ghul, the run away daughter of the Demon’s Head. He watches her take down mobs of people. He has her come back with information she shouldn’t have. He sees her take down small, powerful criminal organisations. So he makes a deal, he will protect her and she will teach him. She gets shelter, protection, money, connections and he gets to learn how to snap a man’s head between his thighs. She gets a shadow to hide in and he gets a well of toxicology knowledge.

   When Iris wakes up, its to a growing criminal organization. Its during a meeting for this that she first shows her power. A bullet flies toward her Barry and as she jumps infront of it her skin turns silver. Flawless and smooth Iris West becomes The Woman of Steel. As the group lies dead at her and Barry’s feet they realize. The game had changed.

  Over a year later, the Central City Underworld finally descends into chaos. Whispers of a sadistic doctor, his right hand robot and pet assasin lerking in the shadows spread. It’s like a plague, causing fear and paronoia everywhere you look. Crime Lords getting trigger happy and cops twitching at every noise.

  Barry Allen is the leading surgeon in Central and Iris West is a prominant member in many court proceedings. Lisa Snart is campaning for Mayor and Talia Al Ghul is as good as dead to the rest of the world. And its at this time that the Man in Yellow starts showing up.

   Slowly it becomes obvious this is the same man. He always happens to arrive in Barry’s radious. Taunting him. And they bite. Every villian and criminal in their way gets struck down. Every lead and every possibility is followed. As this happens Barry is asked by Harrison Wells to join his business. Deciding the labs can be used to find the Man in Yellow, he agrees.

  Soon Central City gets a hero. Hot Pursuit, a man who can run at lightning speed, who drives a motorcyle going just as fast. The man seems to have a grudge with Central City’s biggest criminal trio, the Good Doctor, Titanium and Shadow Hunter. Never succeding, he still breathes down their neck.

  Despite their bitter resentment, the CCPD is too easy to manipulate. Captain Edward Thawne is a rough man with an agenda against the rising metahuman problem. He hates Hot Pursuit just as much as he does any criminal. This leads to the idenity of the Man in Yellow.

   Its Iris who finds out. From his fights with Hot Pursuit and Barry’s memories, Iris finds the pattern. And as she searches S.T.A.R. labs she finds him. Harrison Wells, standing in all his yellow glory, working on a machine Iris knows doesn’t belong. He catches her, and while he can’t kill her, her powers beat his, he does imprison her. He laments he would rather just kill her, everything has already gone wrong.

   When Talia finds Iris they learn the truth. Eobard Thawne killed Nora Allen, got stuck in time, and killed Harrison Wells. He blew up the accelerator early, on purpose but everything was wrong. Barry was wrong. Wrong job, wrong powers, wrong life. And now, now Eobard could never leave, and Barry couldn’t fight back. He would just run.  Leave.

   Barry wouldn’t run. He was tired of running. Wouldn’t leave. He poisoned the man, and Iris mutilated his arm and he still got away. They would never get a chance like that again.  

   So Iris decided to get rid of him. She hunted down Thawne’s ancestor, Captain Edward Thawne. A good man, but if it would kill Eobard then Titanium would make it quick.

Its during this that Titantium found out Hot Pursuit’s idenity.

Wally.

   “Harrison Wells” left them everything. S.T.A.R. labs, millions of dolars and a confession. Henry Allen was let out of Iron Heights. And Hot Pursuit now has partners. Bomba, a woman who could blow up anything she touched. Solarflare, a woman made of fire who could change anything into something completely different. And two very condensading hawk people.

   As Lisa becomes Mayor of Central City, politicians from around come and go. One such person is Jennifer ‘Stormy’ Knight, stone faced daughter of Senator Henry Knight and former Wild Child. After an accident, and an attack, Stormy took on the moniker ‘Phantom Lady’ and fights crime in the battle against dirty politicians. An ally of Titanium and future member of Iris’ ‘Furies’.

  Barry proposes to Iris in a beautiful club they recently claimed, and murdered the former gang of, with a private show, just them, and they made love on the stage.

They have a small beautiful wedding and honeymoon in France. Of course, the wedding was inturrupted but nothing Titanium and her Good Doctor couldn’t end.

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Barry becomes a bendy assassin who uses needles, poison, scalpel, and knowledge of the body to fight. He doesn’t like to back down and is petty when he feels like he’s been insulted.

Iris is a metal tank. She’s sharp, observational, a great detective and an amazing at deception. Silver tongue, y’know? She’s ruthless and protective. She doesn’t trust people easily and usually, she only believes Barry. Also, the only person who can tell Barry what to do, not only that he also always listens (100%).

Decided to add Talia cause no one ever lets her make her own decisions not based on her father or lover. Also added Lisa cause I mean?? Lisa. Also, I’ve recently fallen in love with Phantom Lady sooooo.... bias

Heroes include Wally West as Hot Pursuit, Bette Sans Souci as Bomba, Lily Stien and Valentina Vostok as Solarflare and Carter Hall and Kendra Saunders as Hawkman and Hawkwoman.

This is in reference to lostinthespeedforce ‘s post about Evil WestAllen. So. Feel like I could have done better but... 

@lostinthespeedforce

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Barry refusing to fight evil Iris / Kara refusing to fight evil Lena

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Unpopular opinions: Flash s3 has some moments but overall it's not actually that good, and doesn't deserve to be in the same category as s1 and s2

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It shocks me how overrated s3 is because truly, it’s such a mess. It has great moments, like you said (and Westallen absolutely shines here), but its villain is incredibly incoherent…and kept mysterious in the suit for so long (with pointless Flashpoint + Alchemy intrigue that goes nowhere) that there isn’t enough time to actually unpack the fact that he’s basically evil Barry (and him actually being able to kill someone’s he thinks is Iris, with so much glee…so OOC of a version of Barry). Not to mention them making Team Flash OOC just to give Savitar a sad backstory…

Oh, and although this season is about Iris’s impending death, she gets maybe 2-3 scenes to be emotional about it. The rest of the time, it’s all about how Barry feels 💀 even Joe only gets one scene to be emotional about it, and Wally gets none (or maybe 1, I don’t remember)!

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[giveamadeuschohisownmovie]

For the top 5/top 10 thing. Top 5 ships. And top 10 animated movies

Oh snap. Okay, first off, these two lists are bound to change over time. These are just the choices I came up with at this time. 

Top 5 ships

1) Mattelektra

2) Jancy 

3) Cleon 

4) Westallen

5) Spideychelle 

Honorary mentions: Feenris (I think that’s the name for the Phoenix Wright x Iris ship?), Quakerider, Mileven, Quickwest, Jopper, Nate x Elena

(I’ll write my top 10 animated movies in a separate post / UPDATED with the link to the list) 

[westallenss]

The next ep looks so good. We’re getting evil Iris! I can’t wait to see Barry figuring out that isn’t Iris just like how Iris always knows when it isn’t Barry.

[spaceoperetta]

Barry and Mirror!Iris could be some straight X-Men bonkers time.

[coldflasher]

me watching 7x09

[coldflashwave-baby]

Barry, Leonard, and Iris had been together for almost a year--ever since Leonard came back from his near-death with the Legends. He’d never felt more loved in his life than when he was with Barry and Iris. Then, Savitar came, and Iris died in Barry’s arms while all Leonard could do was stand and watch. A few months passed. Leonard and Barry held each other together, but barely. Both blamed themselves for Iris’ death, believing it should’ve been them instead. 

Then, a purple speedster arrived in town, pulling bank jobs and stealing art right off the walls of museums. Barry tracked the thief down, but when he finally caught up with her, he was stunned when he was face-to-face with Iris. 

Iris Russell aka Speed Demon, a speedster from another Earth on the run from the law. Barry knew he needed to turn her in. She was dangerous, and she wasn’t the same woman he loved. But how could he, when he never thought he’d see those beautiful eyes again?

He flashes her away to his and Leonard’s apartment, where the latter is waiting. Both are unsure what to do with this new Iris, but Iris knows exactly what she wants to do with the two men who looked at her with such passion...