#Captain Ginyu Saga

[tampire]

Nappa and Recoome get beaten by Goku

[quantumleper]

Vegeta Powers Up to Fight Recoome | Dragon Ball Z | Captain Ginyu Saga

My favorite Vegeta power up

[darius-1]

Thank you, Akira Toriyama. May you rest in peace.

[qwerty-between-the-lines]

Dragon Ball Z (1989-1996) - Captain Ginyu performs the 'Dance of Joy' for Frieza to celebrate their obtaining all seven Dragon Balls

[paganminiskirt]

I love how Raditz uses him and Goku’s familial relationship to trick him into letting go of his tail so he can start whaling on him again, all the while having Gohan hostage in his pod. And then later on, Vegeta’s transformation into a great ape causes Goku to realize that he killed his own Grandpa Gohan all those years ago, accidentally or otherwise. It’s like this one biological side effect of his Saiyan heritage both robbed him of a relationship and prevented him from properly mourning once he realized what had happened, with his empathy and willingness to forgive being leveraged against him by those same Saiyans to destroy other familial bonds. It’s such a brutal introduction to a previously unknown part of your identity.

But then on Namek, Vegeta applies him & his father’s own situation to Gohan and Goku when he’s explaining the danger that the Frieza Force represent, saying how “they don’t have to be stronger than you to beat you, they could take your son hostage.” Obviously he’s referencing his childhood removal from King Vegeta’s “care,” but a side effect of that arrangement is that the King himself isn’t a tangible presence in his son’s life, certainly not by the time he’s on Namek. Vegeta does have something vaguely resembling a father figure when he makes that comparison, but it’s not him, it’s Frieza.

Frieza & Vegeta’s relationship is certainly not parental on an emotional level, but the mechanisms of keeping people as indentured servants naturally tend towards paternalism, and it’s obvious that Frieza has a weird little fixation on him besides. The entire Namek saga lowkey constructs this wildly uncomfortable parallel between Goku’s care for & devotion to Gohan, (putting himself in harms way and crossing between entire worlds to keep him safe over and over again,) and Frieza’s similarly relentless but antithetically possessive & degrading relationship with Vegeta, (repeatedly demanding that he be brought back to him alive no matter how much of a nuisance he becomes, to the point of having him nursed back to health after Zarbon claps his ass just so he can torture him himself.)

It’s Gohan who first notices that Captain Ginyu stole his dad’s body, and Gohan who keeps fighting through exhaustion and extreme violence before Goku gets to Namek. Later on in the Buu Saga, Goku realizes the projection of Gohan inside Majin Buu isn’t really his son quicker than anyone else does - their emotional bond is sturdy enough to transcend the physical, even after it’s repeatedly acknowledged that a young child shouldn’t be involved in situations as gruesome as these.

Compare that to Vegeta, who’s only visible relationship with his father comes from sharing violence as a form of giddy self-aggrandizement, until he sells him to a more powerful stranger - which he can’t even say was especially wrong by their own standards, the transaction as much a moral injury as an emotional one. As Frieza pointed out during his fight with Goku, he literally just beat the Saiyans at their own game, picking up where King Vegeta left off by using his son for the benefit of himself & the empire instead of for the benefit of his father & homeworld.

The fact alone that his relationship with his biological dad can begin to amalgamate with his relationship to a person who calls him a pet speaks volumes about how emotionally warped Vegeta was from the beginning. It’s a small wonder he clings to the dynastic propaganda of the Saiyans so hard, using the title he gets from the King in spite of the fact that his reaction to the man himself’s demise is so muted & repressed that it’s depicted using the imagery of a child encased in a mountain of corpses. It's the only thing that can potentially delineate what happened to him as unjust & undeserved - if it’s the violence itself that’s wrong, then what does that make him, his values, his scattered family, their entire culture. What does that make everything he’s been told since the moment of his birth.

And even in that scene where Vegeta is shrugging off his dad’s death and the planet’s destruction, the messenger mentions how Frieza offers his sympathies: as if Frieza isn’t the same person who killed him, this sickly pretense of warmth intended only to cover it up. You might recall how Goku is always mussing Gohan’s hair, and everyone knows that infamous scene where Vegeta strokes his hair before knocking the wind out of him - which can be read as a precursor to that horribly intimate beatdown Frieza lays on Vegeta and the others later, the one he had been planning to give Vegeta this whole time which is only compounded in brutality since Vegeta thwarted him, the one where he licks blood from Vegeta’s mouth off his face as he holds him up by his neck like a dog with it’s pup. It re-contextualizes the head stroke/brutal attack combo Vegeta pulled on Gohan as him acting out the sadistic objectification Frieza raised him on using another Saiyan child.

And in the end it comes full circle, with Vegeta using his last moments to pass the vendetta of himself and his own father on to Goku and his line. And this happens willingly, as a productive challenge to the Saiyan’s culture of domination, unlike the grotesque re-appropriation of that same culture that we’re presented with when Frieza takes Vegeta from home: Goku assumes this mantle after Vegeta is dead and fully incapable of forcing him. He also contradicts the callous disregard Vegeta displayed during the aforementioned scene with the Saibamen by treating his corpse with so much care. He holds him, he buries him. And you could argue that it’s better than he deserves at that point, but like. I think the fact that the gesture is unwarranted is a part of the point.

[bones4thecats]

Hi can I have seperate scenarios in this request where Captain Ginyu, Burter, and Cui, just so happen to meet Emo! F! Human! Reader in the Namek Saga while she's with Bulma and the gang or even somehow gets seperated with the group on accident. If you still have the time when you see this request.

(Hope that the request isn't too much for you.)

DBZ w/ F-Emo-Human! S/O Headcanons

Characters: Captain Ginyu, Burter, and Cui Requester: @silkyshulks A/N: I decided to just do this with them having an S/O that was a powerful human (and emo) that also served with Frieza as one of his highest-ranking helpers (specifically a Regent, or a right-hand). It just made more sense to me. That and I haven't watched the Namek Saga in quite a while and need to re-watch DBZ here soon... But anyways, hope you like this and have a glamorous rest of your day/night, Silkyshulks! ⚠️ Spoilers/Trigger Warnings for: Mentions of possibly child abuse (nothing to bad though) and fighting (??) ⚠️

What I based the Reader's appearance on: Outfit - Makeup - Marks

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╚═════ Captain Ginyu ═══════════════════════════╝

💟 When Ginyu first met you, he was surprised with how powerful you were within Frieza's army. Despite being a mere human, you had a lot of power, enough that prompted the tyrant to promote you to his Regent, in other words his main second-in-command

💟 You held your position highly, using it against any other soldier who tried to put you down. And it didn't help that you always looked emotionless and cold whenever you walked around

💟 Ginyu and you had a surprisingly healthy bond, and that always shined when you served together. He would be busy getting his team to practice their poses and train whilst you were delivering orders to them from Frieza, much of it being their schedule and where they were needed

💟 While he normally gets busy, he does enjoy having some time to relax with you. It mainly consists of you silently sitting on his lap as you would draw on his skin with your temporary markers, he did have a reputation after all

💟 Ginyu also gets confused when you would spend quite a bit of time perfecting your makeup for that day, though it normally was the same eyeliner, and how you would make sure your outfit was perfected. But, he was a warrior, so who was he to judge?

💟 Unlike what many other members of the Frieza Force believe, Ginyu is a very good partner, whether you're married or not. He always finds time for you and he listens, even as he trains, his ears are open for your meek rants

💟 He has offered you a place in the Ginyu Force, but you just turned him down, saying your place belonged delivering news and defending your fearsome Lord. And while Ginyu was dead-set on getting you to join, when he saw you smoke another powerful fighter, he lightened up

💟 Not because he feared you... psh! Why would he fear his S/O? It's a lie, he fears your anger like he fears Frieza's

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╚═════ Burter ════════════════════════════════╝

🌀 You two had a rockier start than the others. Burter is literally described as 'very arrogant, boastful, and tends to talk down to his opponents', and when he saw how blank you looked, he made his thoughts on you obvious

🌀 As a fellow strong warrior, though you stayed out of the field for quite a while, you merely raised your hand, showing off your spider-web markings. He cocked his head as you blasted him, resulting in him flying backwards and into the wall, making a dent as the now-dazed fighter groaned in pain

🌀 Unfortunately for you, Frieza needed your skills of manipulation and physical attacks to take over another planet, so he sent you and Burter together while the rest of the Ginyu Force went to another part of the planet - despite their annoyance of not being able to do their poses correctly -

🌀 It was after that mission that the Blue Hurricane then began to seek you out more, wanting to train. You would just roll your eyes before walking away to find Zarbon to speak too. And that was how his emotions emerged, watching you speak to Zarbon happily while you would naturally stare into Burter's soul before leaving

🌀 While it took a while, and when I say a while I mean a while, to finally ask you out, he was surprised with how different you were in private. You always seemed so done with everyone and cold, but you really cared about the few close-individuals you had, including this certain blue alien

🌀 Burter doesn't seem like he would, but I can see him enjoying watching you gather your outfits, whether they were formal-looking or not, and seeing you put on your makeup and basically style yourself up. It was kind of like a therapy for him in a way

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╚═════ Cui ══════════════════════════════════╝

🐟 Cui and you met early on in your services under Frieza, and he was extremely jealous that you, a mere human, a being he could squash with one blast, was promoted to be the Emperor's right-hand!

🐟 And, in all honesty, he was intimidated by you as much as the next soldier. The way you looked just scared him. You always looked so glum and ready to kill, and the way you would dress and decorate your face freaked him out. He was used to others looking odd, but this was a level he had never encountered in his life!

🐟 The only reason he had ever spoke to you was because Frieza had demanded Cui to deliver a message to you and get the findings you came up with. And while he was acting like a pissed-off child who was just told they couldn't get a lollipop by their parents at first, he did eventually begin to see how gentle you truly were underneath your dark-look

🐟 You proved that true when, instead of insulting or yelling at the tiny-and-very-young alien who brought you files, you just pat them on their head and told them to go to your chambers and grab themselves a plush from your bottom drawer. He watched the child run off with a gleeful smile on their face while you continued typing an encrypted message to Frieza's father, King Cold

🐟 Cui called your name and couldn't help but ask you a question that nagged at him for the past few minutes of silence;

"Why were you so kind to that child? Normally higher-ranked authorities just push them around."

"I condemn those who would offend a lower-ranked soldier, nonetheless a child, for no reason. It's a show of how pathetic and weak they truly are, regardless of placements in this hierarchy."

🐟 Cui just nodded and grabbed the finished files you handed him before rushing out of the room and towards the main office of your leader. One question nagging in his mind; why was his stomach churning at the thought of you treating a child... especially one that looked like both of you... so kindly?

🐟 He was going to need to speak to the medic afterwards

[demifiendrsa]

DRAGON BALL: Sparking! ZERO – Saiyan & Namek Sagas Character Trailer

Japanese version

The newly confirmed characters include:

Captain Ginyu

Chiaotzu

Cui

Dodoria

Frieza (Z), 1st Form

Frieza (Z), 2nd Form

Frieza (Z), 3rd Form

Frieza (Z), 4th Form

Frieza (Z), Full Power

Guldo

Nail

Recoome

Saibaiman

Super Zarbon

Zarbon

Dragon Ball: Sparking! ZERO will launch for PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC via Steam on October 11, 2024.

Screenshots

[fandom-trash-xl]

Ginyu's Body Swap Ability and the Convoluted Convenience of It

So, we pretty much get the gist of Captain Ginyu's iconic ability- he calls out "change now!" and fires off a beam that, when it makes contact with another being, the two swap their souls between each others bodies.

But, I've noticed that the key crux to this ability is the calling out of the activation phrase. Seemingly so with most techniques, unknown if it's just for the flair of the franchise, but Ginyu's is one that is most obviously hinged on the ability to speak. This is why frog Ginyu turns tail after getting trapped in that body instead of trying to bounce back.

Two loopholes we see in the series are what could be considered filler, so take with a grain of salt.

First, we have the Bulma-Ginyu filler during the Frieza fight that DBZ Kai just couldn't remove. Bulma finds frog Ginyu and gets her body snatched for a time after, out of boredom, she invents a frog translation collar. We can assume through all this time, Ginyu's trying to say "change now!", but it comes out as little croaks in his frog body. His technique only works on Bulma once the collar translates the phrase in audio. This poses two possibilities of how this works:

a) "Change now!" needs to be spoken in its original Galactic Basic tongue in order to work.

or b) "Change now!" needs to be understood by the swap target.

If b, maybe Ginyu was experimenting with what he could swap with. He could swap with fellow frogs, which accomplishes nothing, but the frustration comes in when he finally meets one of the few sapients still alive on the planet and he can't swap with her.

Second, in the Dragon Ball Super version of Resurrection F (not the movie, as Tagoma gets chucked out the airlock roughly fifteen minutes into that version and still makes it onto the movie poster), we find out that Namekian frogs are surprisingly durable. Ginyu was transported off Namek with the Dragon Ball wish in the Frieza saga and has been soldiering on for this very moment. He manages to get swapped into Tagoma's body by writing out "change now!" in the sand in front of him, prompting Tagoma to read it aloud.

Huh?

Ginyu doesn't even say "change now!"; Tagoma does. At least with the Bulma scenario, it was a translation of his own voice, not a whole other person. As far as we know, Tagoma does not know the body swap technique, which makes his fate all the more tragic because, once Ginyu dies, there's no amount of loopholes that are going to get him out of that frog and his only choice is to wait for the frog body to croak (badum-tss). Anyhow, with that in mind... how does the technique trigger?

The only convoluted possibility I can come up with hinges on option b in the previous scenario:

Frog Ginyu croaks "change now!" in frog-tongue, which cannot be understood and doesn't work.

Frog Ginyu writes out "change now!" so Tagoma can read it.

Tagoma reads it aloud solely for audience benefit.

The writing causes Tagoma to understand the croak as meaning "change now!". This croak is now the same as "change now!" to Tagoma, so the ability can activate and snatch his body.

Sounds like overcomplicated BS right? I know it does!

[themattress]

A look at Dragon Ball Z's sagas and the incarnation I prefer them in: manga, anime, or Kai.

The Vegeta Saga

Manga: 48 Chapters (Vol. 1 - 5) Anime: 35 Episodes (Season 1) Kai: 16 Episodes (Season 1)

This one is really difficult. The arc is a good one in all incarnations, of course, but I especially love both animated renditions. The original anime has strengths like filler episodes that flesh out the year between the major Saiyan battles quite well and provide more development to characters like Gohan and Piccolo, and even spotlight characters that were underutilized in the manga (in Launch's case, not utilized at all!), but weaknesses like filler episodes that are particularly bad and contradictory to canon material, plus the battle with Nappa and Vegeta having more padding stuffed in than is necessary. Kai loses those weaknesses, but it also loses those strengths. On the plus side, it feels perfectly paced, with 8 episodes before Nappa and Vegeta arrive followed by 8 after their arrival. So, which version gets the victory?

Well, the winner is....

The good filler in the original anime is very good, but the bad filler is literally story-breaking levels of bad (ex: the space pod Goku came to Earth in gets blown up, and then when it's canonically needed for the story no reference is made to the fact that it was ever destroyed), and more importantly than that, Kai has the only consistently good English dub of the saga.

The Freeza Saga

Manga: 87 Chapters (Vol. 5 - 12) Anime: 72 Episodes (Seasons 1 - 3) Kai: 38 Episodes (Seasons 1 - 3)

Let's rule out the anime right away, because its filler and padding was more often than not atrocious and dragged the whole thing down in spite of the arc's soaring highs. Kai retains those highs and trims the fat, with almost half the amount of episodes. However, a few things it couldn't quite work around such as Captain Ginyu's pointless return in Bulma's body and the fight between Goku and Freeza getting interrupted by a fight between Gohan and Freeza still ended up remaining. The pacing is still slightly better than the manga's and seeing the battles and transformations all fully animated is always a plus, but as a minus Toriyama's writing is more consistent as Toei's aforementioned retained additions are just that obvious.

So, when weighing them carefully, I've got to give the nod to....

The original manga arc was immediately iconic for a reason. Also, it's the only version where Vegeta says that Zarbon spilled Freeza's secret of being able to transform...and Zarbon actually did so! Yeah, in both anime versions they totally forget to have Zarbon say that to Vegeta, so it comes out of nowhere when Vegeta says the line to Freeza! When you make such a monumental narrative blunder, you just can't be the definitive version of the story.

The Cell Saga

Manga: 91 Chapters (Vol. 12 - 19) Anime: 77 Episodes (Seasons 4 - 6) Kai: 44 Episodes (Seasons 3 - 4)

It's a nigh-perfectly paced and utterly riveting story arc in all three versions, so each version's weaknesses being minor compared to their strengths. So this one is practically a coin toss!

But the coin lands on...

It's the best of both worlds. Truer to the manga with a lot of filler excised, while maintaining great animation and voice-acting that the anime made possible, plus keeping some of the better changes such as how the final epic beam struggle between Gohan and Cell plays out. Also, I much prefer the arrangement of the Kikuchi score here compared to the original.

The Buu Saga

Manga: 99 Chapters (Vol. 20 - 26) Anime: 92 Episodes (Seasons 7 - 9) Kai: 69 Episodes (The Final Chapters)

This arc was never gotten right in any version. The manga's goes further and further off the rails and gets rushed to a flat, underwhelming conclusion; the anime's drags on too long and the many battles against different incarnations of Buu grow tiresome; and Kai bafflingly keeps in a lot of the anime's worst additions which feels totally against the original point of Kai.

But the lesser of three evils is....

At the very least, when this arc starts to get really bad in the manga, it goes by fast. It's mostly in the last two volumes and you can read through it easily. That's way better than spending 22 minutes after 22 minutes after 22 minutes putting up with the decline in quality.

But that leads me to my big Hot Take: Dragon Ball Z is a legendary anime, important to and cherished by many, myself included. But nowadays there's....really not much of a good reason to watch it. Kai is far more in line with the original manga and actually goes at a reasonable pace. 167 episodes is still lengthy; longer than Dragon Ball's 153 and Dragon Ball Super's 131, but it still falls under that reasonable umbrella, whereas 291 episodes just feels way too daunting, especially when not being broadcast on a weekday-by-weekday basis.

So aside from checking out episodes here and there as a curiosity, I wouldn't recommend the original Dragon Ball Z to anyone anymore. Maybe I'm going to HFIL for that, but it's true!

[athenafire]

💚+ Mer and Frieza

// This has only been talked about between you and me on discord, so I'm going to give a real quick rundown. It's based on an old, very much dead AU where Meredith was picked up by The Ginyu Force two decades prior. The captain himself saw something in her that he didn't quite understand, but absolutely loved the novelty of.

//Years pass, and the Namek saga happens as it does normally in the series. However, she was asked to stay behind and do her usual bit of keeping Lord Friezas house in order. When the planet started breaking apart, she made the order of getting everybody still breathing back into the ship and getting the hell out of there. For years after, the very young teenager took over the ship as acting captain without any knowledge of what happened to Frieza or Captain Ginyu. This au takes place after Frieza comes back to life and takes over the ship again. Having gained a large amount of respect for her because of how well she handled the situation with zero funding from the Cold empire, and even managing to dodge being recruited by Cooler.

//all of this led to him becoming obsessed with her in a way that is so delicious to watch. It's horrifyingly toxic, yet weirdly respectful and cute at the same time. And watching the two of them dance around admitting they care for each other, and remaining professional despite the clear possessiveness and toxic loyalty.

// They're so close to either being the universe is most terrifying power couple, but also extremely close to tipping that seesaw into so many flavors of toxic relationships. It's just a fun little playground.

//All that being said, I love this. It's a completely different version of the nice gal we all love, we're a lot of her motivations are still deeply embedded in who she is as a character normally. Nature versus nurture, possession versus admiration.

[satoshi-mochida]

Some thoughts and details on my last Gamefly rental, Dragon Ball FighterZ(Switch version; no DLC).

There's an original story mode in this instead of retreading the main Sagas like usual, split into 3 Arcs(that seem to be alternate timelines?). Beating all 3 Arcs will unlock Hard Mode for the first one, and I believe the rest get it once you finish the previous one in Hard Mode.

For this story, an unnamed Earthling Soul links with the Z-Fighters, a few villains who've been revived and/or the Androids after strange waves incapacitate them all as a huge wave of clones of many Z-Fighters and villains go on the attack and is somehow able to allow them to fight again. They're weakened, however, so you'll be raising your Link Ratio(i.e. levels gained from experience) with them to make them stronger.

Battles are done in any combination of 1 to 3 available fighters in Story Mode, and I think always 3v3 outside of it. The ones you aren't playing as can be called in for Assist Attacks or switched out with your current fighter.

Something I think unique to DB FighterZ is that, when one fighter is KO'd, instead of them tagging in normally, they'll fly in and arm clash with the winner of the last round, then both will jump to the starting positions before the player(s) gets control back.

Constantly fighting the clones over and over, as well as how the maps work(they're laid out like a game board, with different panels to move to, one at a time), reminds me of Budokai 2's story mode, which looked similar, and where later on, you had to repeatedly fight Majin versions of Frieza and Cell. At least there's more variety here, though it can get repetitive.

Base roster:

Goku(Super Saiyan)

Goku(Super Saiyan Blue; unlockable through several means)

Vegeta(Super Saiyan)

Vegeta(Super Saiyan Blue; same as SSB Goku)

Gohan(Teen)

Gohan(Adult)

Gotenks(Super Saiyan 3)

Future Trunks(Super Saiyan)

Krillin

Yamcha

Tien

Piccolo

Android 16

Android 18

Android 21(unlockable)

Frieza(Final Form)

Captain Ginyu

Perfect Cell

Majin Buu

Kid Buu

Nappa

Beerus

Hit

Goku Black

Here are the unlock conditions for Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta:

For use in Story Mode, they must reach level 40. The easiest way I found was to redo the second to last battle in the third Arc over and over and equip them with Skills that increase EXP.

For use outside Story Mode: You need to earn 300,000 Zeni for SSB Vegeta and 500,000 Zeni for SSB Goku. Alternatively, you need to beat the 'Extreme Gravity Spaceship Course' on Hard in Arcade Mode, and get A Rank(Vegeta)/beat 'Hyperbolic Time Chamber Course' on Hard(Goku). There are Skills that increase the Zeni you earn to make the grind a bit easier, though I don't know a good farming method.

After starting the game, and selecting if you want to play online or offline, you'll be put into a Hub where you can walk or fast travel with ZL to different parts of it for each Mode.

In Arcade Mode, you can fight a set of 3, 5 or 7 matches, with Hard Mode for each being unlocked after clearing on Normal. I've heard Hard Mode really lives up to it's name, reaching 'SNK Boss' levels at times, too.

There's a Shop in the Hub where you can spend Zeni earned from fights on Z-Capsules, either 1 or 10 at a time, which can give you, alternate character colors, various customization options for your Lobby character that walks around the Hub or your online Player Card. If you get a repeat from a Z-Capsule, you'll instead get Premium Coins. Using them, either 10 or 100, will guarantee that you get items from Z-Capsules that you don't have yet.

In the Story Mode menu, there's a Gallery that lets you view story scenes that you've found, and this includes 'Special Events', which can happen when specific characters enter a battle. They're shown here in silhouette, with enemies marked in red, until you see them, and some are specific to each Story Arc. I like these, they usually have some interesting or amusing conversations between the characters.

The Boot Camp/FighterZ Dojo Mode is full of gameplay tutorials, which also pop up often in the first Story Mode Arc on Normal(doing them there also gives you some extra Zeni).

During non-Story game modes, you can collect the Dragon Balls and make a wish by making large combos, 70+ hits needed for the last one. More details here.

By winning fights under specific conditions outside of Story Mode, you can trigger a Dramatic Finish, where iconic moments from the series, plus some new ones, can play out. Here are the conditions to initiate each Dramatic Finish.

Yamcha feels like he got thrown a bone in this game: he feels fun to play(and is the type of fighter I'm good at), and can even get a reversal of his infamous death in a Dramatic Finish against Nappa.

Krillin and Android 18 have some really nice moments in this, and I want to see more of that.

Like with GBF Versus, the graphic style and animations are very well done. I watched a video from Boundary Break that showed how it looks away from what the player can see, and how some shots were made to work look really silly. XD

Next game being sent is: Super Neptunia RPG.

[ultraericthered]

1999 Dragon Ball Z VHS nostalgia post

Whoever it was who got the first two videos order wrong on that Frieza Saga box set needed to get fired from the job.

BONUS: The complete VHS series, featuring the Saiyan Saga, Namek Saga, Captain Ginyu Saga, Frieza Saga, Garlic Jr. Saga, Trunks Saga, Androids Saga, Imperfect Cell Saga, Perfect Cell Saga, Cell Games Saga, Great Saiyaman/World Tournament Saga, Babidi Saga, Majin Buu Saga, Fusion Saga, and Kid Buu Saga.

[imperfectercell]

Ok I have an important question, how good would the dbz villains be at among us? I’m asking for a friend, that is me

ive had this ask in my inbox for forever. time to answer.

Vegeta (saiyan saga) is surprisingly good. but Not as imposter. he outs himself so easily when hes imposter, he likes people know his prowess.

Nappa isnt too good at either, but tends to be pretty trusting. doesnt notice small tells that well and is murdered a lot

ginyu force collectively are literally unstoppable. Will work together to help either the captain or frieza win no matter what side all of them are on

frieza is insufferable. hes able to sweet talk quite well, but is very petty and ends up getting himself or his companions killed to prove himself right

17 and 18 are another force to be reckoned with, but only when theyre on the same side. if theyre not, its On Sight

Cell is good at Sneaking as an imposter, and talking his way out o getting ousted, but is often ejected as a crewmate bc hes so sus

Buu can be found running into a corner at the edgeof the starting room. does not know how to play.

[duhragonball]

Dragon Ball Super 022

This is the one where Gotenks headbutts a guy in the dick.

Oh, this is also the one where Tagoma rips off Piccolo’s arm like he’s nothing.  It’s weird how this is like the third wildest thing to happen in this episode.  So I guess this is the high water mark for this saga.

So after the arm-ripping-off thing, Gotenks arrives with the headbutt to stop Tagoma, and then he immediately de-fuses into Goten and Trunks.  Frieza recognizes Goten as Goku’s son, and he thinks Trunks is the son of the mysterious Super Saiyan who killed him eighteen years ago.  Little does Frieza know that this was the future AU counterpart of Trunks, but no one has time to go over that now.

Then, while Tagoma tends to his wounded groin, Captain Ginyu shows up to steal his body.  He can’t speak, which means he can’t say the magic words to do the bodyswap trick, but he does write some words in the dirt, and tricks Tagoma into reading them aloud, and somehow that works just as well. 

Of course, Frieza has no idea what just happened, so Ginyu has to explain his entire backstory.  He got turned into a frog while fighting Vegeta, then he got teleported to Earth when Porunga granted Dende’s wish to evacuate Namek, and he’s been stranded here ever since, putting up with various hardships and indignities while figuring out his next move.  But now he’s back, in Tagoma’s body, which is more powerful than any other body Ginyu has ever had, so he’s rarin’ to get back to work as Frieza’s underling. 

And he does really well, until Gohan turns Super Saiyan and kicks him in the dick.  Kind of weird how this isn’t even the best groin injury in this episode. 

Okay, so I have a question.  If all Ginyu needed to do was to trick someone else into saying the words, then why didn’t he do that a long time ago?  I mean, he’d have to learn Earth’s language and alphabet, and then find someone dumb enough to read it aloud, but he’s been stuck like this for almost twenty years, and what else was taking up his time?

I think it would have been a better gag if he revealed that he had been training for years to use his froggy body to produce the sounds needed to vocalize the words.  Not true speech, but just enough to get the words “change now!” out of his throat. 

Meanwhile, Goku and Vegeta are stuck in some unknown dimension Whis sent them to.  They can’t move at all, no matter how hard they try, until Vegeta recalls one of Whis’s lessons about ki control.  According to Whis, their problem is that they “leak” ki energy all over the place while they fight, and this is inefficient.  He wants them instead to focus on containing all their power as they use it.  So when Vegeta tries to apply this concept, he finds he can move again. 

However, that still doesn’t save them.  Goku thinks this place is similar to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, and if it’s an endless void with no exit, then they might starve to death.  Goku figures that Beerus must train in this place, which means he must have a pantry somewhere, so they start looking for one.

Meanwhile, Gohan shows Ginyu mercy, which reminds Frieza a little too much of the time Goku showed him mercy back on Namek.  This was a nice touch, since it shows that Frieza isn’t just mad about losing to Goku or getting killed.  Those are the main beefs he has, but he’s also furious about the humiliation he suffered, and the torment he endured in hell, and the way Goku pitied him in the end.  So Frieza starts shooting Gohan himself, and orders Ginyu to stand down.

Then, just before Frieza can finish him off, Piccolo jumps in to take the killing shot, and dies.  This seemed kind of pointless to me on the first viewing, but now it seems more obvious.  They needed something to add a story beat to this arc, since Gohan already got death-beamed in the last episode.  The movie had Frieza nearly kill him, and then he ate a senzu bean and got better.  Episodes 21 and 22 basically try to spread that out across two episodes, which doesn’t make sense.  So it’s better to have Piccolo take a shot like this than to have Gohan do it twice. 

Of course, it just demonstrates that stretching these movies out across ten or more episodes is a bad call.  They would have been better off just not bothering, but no one consulted me on this.