#ALSO I WANNA DO ART FIGHT!! but running into same issue I just dont have any ocs lol
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#:(((((#Nothing will ever compare#My posts#Wish I cared more about making stories/ Oc's cause that would fix my issues I just hate writing og stories#ALSO I WANNA DO ART FIGHT!! but running into same issue I just dont have any ocs lol#Even my cats oc im done with I like his design but his whole thing needs redone blehhh too much work
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brooke i am so mad!! people are getting upset over how authors characterize steddie!! i wish people still used the whole “dont like dont read” mindset!!!!!! like damn what if i wanna write steve as a pretty boy who loves putting on lip gloss and mascara!!! whats it to them???? i dont know how you do it :( you write some of my favorite steve and eddie’s and i know some people would say that the way u characterize them is unrealistic (hah very funny!! its called fan FICTION. UNREALISTIC IS BASICALLY IN THR DEFINITION!!! ughh!!!!!) how do u deal with the negative comments??? ive been so unmotivated lately by all this hate floating around :((
omg what's happened now?? Or do you mean what's been going on in general over the past few weeks? I know, it's really tough at the moment and the fandom's going through one of those phases where there's a lot of in-fighting and people trying to crack down on content they find "problematic" i.e things they personally don't like, which is a common issue in fandom spaces since the rise of social media and since fandom went mainstream. I'm really sorry that you feel demotivated right now, I've had waves of feeling the same since the whole "don't make Steve soft and feminine" debacle and now the witch hunts taking place on the Twitter side of the fandom. So it definitely gets to me too, I'm not immune by any means.
What really helps, I've found, is finding a small group of friends or people who run accounts that you enjoy, and focusing on them and your own writing, and staying out of the wider fandom. Whenever I've tried to engage with the wider fandom it's just caused me grief, so I stick to my own little corner now, and focus on my writing and what I enjoy, and talk to a small group of friends, and it's really helped. Also I've been through a lot of this before so it's not my first rodeo, but I can see why it would be intimidating and off-putting for someone who's new to the fandom.
Also YES, it's so dumb for anyone to say "this is OC" when I write the characters because all I'm doing is dialling up their core characteristics and as Az says, if everything was "true to canon" all we'd be doing is writing straight people in rooms not talking to each other. Fanfiction is meant to be transgressive, like that's the entire point, we're weaving folklore and creating art from established characters and making them our own. And if we were all writing the same thing it would become SO boring, so let people have fun and find enjoyment where they can because the world is so shitty and cruel as it is, so why are we turning fandom spaces into police states where you're only allowed to write one type of characterisation or you're ridiculed and ostracised. And where you can't write anything "problematic" i.e non-con or underage because it's EVIL and WRONG and you're a BAD PERSON.
Give me a break.
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10 Anti LO Asks
1. you know whats also bad about the red eyes? not only do they look awful on persephone's pink color, they're not even a unique feature? like we've seen hades' eyes go red, we've seen eros' eyes go red, and ares' eyes are ALWAYS red, so even this idea its her "unique queenly trait" doesnt even hold up?? because we've seen it on other characters before?like at least the blue glowing eyes looked unique and even gave her a possessed, otherworldly look, something with the red eyes just dont have.
2. The faces in the latest ep (not fastpass).... Ew
3. I saw someone praise lore olympus art, specifically the ones where Apollo is playing his lyre and Daphne is covering her ears while her hair is split in two (yuck! Bad decision looks awful) so we can see Apollo, the one where she transforms into her hibernation state (weird perspective, chin and neck, I think, also what the hell was that supposed to be?) and the last one before cutting to Thanatos (which, I admit looks a little better that the other but I still got distracted Apollo's arm among other things).
Now, Rachel is a professional artist like 15-25 years older than me (I dunno her age) drawing one of the most liked webtoons.
I feel like I'm nitpicking or being too harsh or crazy because I think it is a little terrible and this person thinks it's amazing and I know art is subjective and all but like the difference of opinion is jarring. I am by no means a professional and my art leaves a lot to be desired and I guess I don't have incredibly high standards (or do I? I'm second guessing). Is it really that good?
Because I know that Smythe commits more than a few anatomy atrocities. I wanted to redraw a few panels two years ago and I noticed a few things that Don't Work Like That.
4. ok but that other anon is right. we shouldnt have to go off old tumblr asks or random tweets to understand what's going on and who the characters are. rachel doesnt realize you have to actually write whats going on, not putting the readers on a scavenger hunt trying to figure out what they're even reading.
5. im honestly surprised LO hasnt ruined more mother figures at this point. maybe maia will be next and depicted as neglectful and hermes is only the way he is because hes acting out to be noticed by her, maybe dione will slut shame aphrodite, who knows, the possibilities are endless when its about ruining every mother figure to prop persephone and hera up and to avoid giving the characters actual personalities that isnt dependent on mommy/daddy issues.
6. I hate the clothing choice for Daphne in run for your life. It felt like she was drawn in a sexualized manner when she shouldn’t have been because she was running away from a r*pist. Like she almost had a nip slip, we almost got her ass, it was like Rachel was trying to fit her butt and chest in a lot of the frames like some video game with the token woman character. Like if a different dress was choosen or how she made Daphne tie the dress, I just feel like Rachel can’t draw outside of pinup sexy that well. Like sexy is fine for sexy scenes but running away from a r*pist is not sexy. (I probably sounded really lame, but the way Rachel presents the story in a feminist way but can only draw one way in not even the same style is annoying)
7. Things I think would have been better for the story instead of focusing so much on HXP
-Expanding on Minthe’s and Hades beginning of their relationship (he couldn’t of fallen for her since she didn’t laugh at him and when she yelled at him said it’s not your fault but you have the hat I think that would have added to his character more to see him more than a 40 year old who hits on barely legal)
-Leto’s kidnapping of Demeter. Both we/are close with Hera, and probably know or each other or may have been friends. Like I wanna know how Leto kidnapped her but also how are they interacting since they probably know each other and Demeter probably had Hera’s back when Hera ended their friendship.
-Ares return to Aphrodite. We don’t get to see much of her character but we know this is something she’s wanted, but they way it was handled was so flat, We assume Aphrodite told Ares that his gf slept with his father to save their son but we don’t actual read any words between the couple. And then they’re living together. I wanna see how they actually interact and stay together like their better moments. Like how well did he settle in, did they talk about how long he left for or is he mad like come on that’s something interesting but I feel like RS can’t write outside of HXP
-the deal with Echo. Why do people think Echo could possibly be Hera’s gf if she’s her assistant. Yeah they do dirty work together BUT I didn’t get a wiff or sexual tension or anything. Was it that she was there with the doctor? It just seems like Hera is that CEO trope who has the assistant always by her now.
-a little more of Pysche and Aphrodite friendship. Like Pysche says Aphrodite is lonely (and we can assume a part of that is Ares) but also because she “doesn’t have many friends” so why not a solo scene of just the two of them being actual friends. Like what did Aphrodite say when she brought back a purple nymph that was gonna help them with their work.
-Hermes not talking about Persephone. I feel like that 99% of what his character is and then just a little bit of himbo.
-Maybe Thantos and Minthe started flirting/hooking up. We’re they friends first or flirts first? Was it after Hades and Minthe got into a fight or something else? What did Thantos like about Minthe and what does she like about him? Why did she stay with Hades with Thantos was there (it’s not like she wanted to be queen of the underworld) How did Thantoas and Thetis meet and become friends? Idk if I was seeing two guys and one of them actually liked my friend I might consider leaving Hades for him. But again hades did have the power to control everything in Minthe’s life (job, home, everything) I do like Daphne and Thantos But I feel like the transition could have been better if we knew more, but again RS can only focus on one thing and that’s HXP.
------FP Spoiler/Mention------
8. FP SPOILERS— I’m done. I’m really done. We called it. We FKN called it. They got married behind the readers back, Demeter didn’t respond to the question as she actively avoided it and time was up, Apollo is somehow involved in the trial- THIS WHOLE THING IS A MESS AND IM TIRED OF HOPING THAT IT GETS BETTER. Four FKN years of this??? I’m done with this Webtoon even though I’m FKN stuck in it. I’m so FKN done.
9. Fast Pass spoiler (kinda) OH MY GOD, I JUST REALIZED THE POMEGRANATE PIN IS JUST PASTED ON EVERY FRAME, NOT EVEN RE DRAWN FOR PERSPECTIVE, NO, JUST COPIED AND PASTED, REGARDLESS THE OUTFIT ANGLE AND LIGHTING, IT'S HILARIOUS!!!I mean, I knew the art was decaying, but this just made me laugh out loud of how bad it looked.
10. persephone’s pomegranate pin just looks like a giant fly that landed on her and won’t leave LMAO
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Man, I forgot to post 90% of my art here for the past while. I’m gonna do an art dump in this post under the cut. Enjoy the bonk emoji if you don’t click the read more, and man am I dumb and forgetful lmao.
Includes: OCs getting names, a Sonic impression, a D&D map, homosexual energies, a sheep floating in the astral sea, a birthday drawing I already posted, Hex Maniac Ender, D&D Characters, D&D Characters as Miis in Miitopia, Little Hater Axel, local Demon in the consciousness of my D&D character yelling at him, illegal plants, a necromancer being cute, an actual event that happened in a D&D game two days ago, and Mermay drawing.
That’s everything in here as a TL;DR, I guess. Enjoy your day!
I’m gonna try and sort of have them in chronological order, oldest first, but I may end up putting them in the wrong order. If I do... Whoops, I guess?
[04/14/21] - This isn’t really new art, but I started to work on giving the four OCs of mine without a full name full names... I have not finished this bit, though. So Hunter and Akira have full names, and Warlock and Assassin only have temporary names. This may end up like Seven where I put in their names as a temporary name (7th OC I’d made at that time) and it just kind of... sticks. Lmao.
[04/20/21] - Alone on a Friday Night? God, you’re pathetic. I didn’t colour this one because it was a half-attempt at a meme image I still like it, though, so I might end up colouring it. It’s gonna appear again whenever I do my “unfinished drawings art dump” at some point probably in... June? I know I said I’d post them last month but forget it, lmao, it’ll happen eventually.
[04/20/21] - A D&D Map! This was to help me visualize the layout of my D&D character’s ship he used to be on. Also for my DM if they ever put us aboard the ship. The little fella in the corner is just there to vibe. This map is made of free to use assets from This Website, so while I’m gonna say DONT USE MY MAP WITHOUT PERMISSION, feel free to make your own!
[04/26/21] - Lesbian Day of Visibility drawing of yours truly, the disapointment! That’s... really all I have to say about this, honestly. It was just for that one day and that was it, lmao. I mean, I accidentally lined it in dark pink, so.. .That’s different, I guess?
[04/30/21] - Do Astral Seas dream of Ensorcled Sheep? Does the City know what Sheepleb is going to do? What crimes he may commit? Who knows! This was fan art of Critical Role ep. 134 if I remember correctly, right at the end when they jumped into the portal into the astral sea and Caleb was a sheep. Using my knowledge of the German language, I knew the word for “shit”, and had to use it.
[05/07/21] - This was already posted, but it’s going in here to dilinuate that it was drawn at this point. Also, aside from playing Miitopia, this is all I have to show for myself until the 12th.
[05/12/21] - Hex Maniac Ender challenges you to a Pokemon Battle! WIll you win against my team? My sis, who loves fairy types, pointed out to me that there’s a fairy girl and hex maniac duo, so I’d be the hex maniac. I spent... Over a week drawing this, because I basically had to redraw the Hex Maniac art from scratch in a higher quality size, and then draw myself over it. So... You can excuse the low-effort background for once. It was basically this, and then my birthday doodle from May 1st to May 12th, and then I took a break to draw up several D&D characters quickly for fullbody references.
[05/12/21] - Remember this art I made several months ago? I finally added my other two completed characters! I have three more named but without character sheet D&D characters, so for now this is just Kara, Axel, Golden Shadow, Kau, Cecillia, and Miri. Kress, Tempest, and Melia will have to wait until I make character sheets for them to be posted, and... For when I probably make more D&D characters. I have at least 9 additional, incomplete character ideas floating around, so... I’m never gonna be done this art, huh?
[05/12/21] - Speaking of D&D characters, did you know I’ve been making them as Miis in Miitopia? So here is their finished full body art next to their Miitopia self! Some of them look a little off (Golden Shadow, Cecillia) because of limitations of the editor and shading issues, some of them look a little off (Kau, Kress) because this is a human face canvas that I’m using to make a non-human face, and some of them (Melia, Axel) look REALLY GOOD. Common traits among my D&D characters include green eyes and tall. You wanna know why? Because I am tall and... despite having red eyes, I do have green eyes under the coloured contacts.
[05/15/21] - More D&D stuff! This is based around my D&D group’s current Rime of the Frostmaiden campaign where our Goliath Fighter, Nioh, ends up getting a little bit of hate for being cocky, and our little (well over 6′) hater, Axel, is just a man full of irritation. These are the tallest two characters of the group at the moment. Someone send help. Nioh belongs to one of the other D&D players, Axel (and his stupid additude) belongs to me.
[05/15/21] - This is what me playing D&D feels like. Me, the demon entity trapped inside the head of my D&D character, yelling at them to do things while the dice decide that they’re gonna get bopped a hundred times by a yeti and somehow still survive. This is also a reference to our first or second game where I just ran off like sixty feet to one side of the battle map to fight a Crag Cat and was just in Gay Baby Jail until like two turns later when I could run back to the others. I also drew him not in his winter gear even though this is a bit from when we were atop Kelvin’s Carin in an icy cave, so maybe that’s why he’s at low HP.
[05/15/21] - Melia has good gardening tips, such as Use A Mars Mii Trap To Hide A Body Because They Are Endangered And It Is Illegal To Dig Them Up. I love her a lot, because she’s the youngest of four, all four sisters based around the different seasons. She’s based around Autumn, so she’s all orange and yellow and brown and is so cute. Also she’s Chaotic Neutral, as if she didn’t need to be mildly more threatening.
[05/15/21] - Cecillia is my Tiefling gal who lived in a very northern town plagued by cold weather and snow, and Axel is my Pirate guy who spent most of his time further south on the high seas and warmer weather. So, naturally... I’ll use the guy more acclimatized to the hotter weather in the campaign where we spend 99% of it in the snow. She uses Tarot Cards as her spell focus, and I decided to sneak my other D&D characters onto her Tarot cards so naturally, Axel is The Hanged Man, given his backstory and personality. She’s a very cheerful and friendly Tiefling Necromancer of the Hexblade, so she’d for sure take care of those around her to ensure their success. Especially if they’re on her Tarot Cards, and their spirit comes to her aid when she asks for them.
[05/16/21] - Content Warning; Ryma thinks too much into local stupid moron’s lack of knowing how to answer a question and thinks too much into the reputation of Pirates. Poor Axel, man doesn’t know how to socialize with people who aren’t pirates and is used to being hostile towards everyone, so when he’s asked a question that his answer to is “uhh... no?”, he panics and ends up making a mistake that leads him to think that Ryma can read his mind. Ryma belongs to another of the D&D players. I guess me drawing all those spicy Cow Costumed OCs earlier just brought me to drawing Axel being a bottom in this, huh?
[05/16/21] - It’s Mermay, which means more OC drawings! Here’s Theo after drinking some potion that turned him into a mermaid, and Seven, tiredly, collecting his stupid boyfriend so that Lailah can fix the fact he’s turned into a mermaid. Mer!Theo is based around his sword’s colours of indigo-purple with red accents, which looks a little weird since Theo is the Blue one of the group, but... it looks cool, I guess. Seven’s just the same outfit as always, just no gloves this time.
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And that’s it for the art dump! This was, frankly, MASSIVE. I’ll try and remember to upload both on Twitter and Tumblr at the same time, but... Ah... I have been drawing a fair bit. Just mostly sketches and linework that I haven’t finished and may not actually finish. If they’re not completed, I’ll dump them all into something at the end of the month or whatever. Maybe you’ll get the old sketch of the Axel face in panel 3 because in the sketch phase it was an Ahegao face, in the clean sketch it was a lip bite, and in the linework and final it’s just horny face. lmao.
Top ten things I have to remember for drawing: AXEL HAS A SCAR AND GREEN EYES. I remember his eye colour now, but if you look at his fullbody ref, he’s got brown eyes. And, naturally, I keep forgetting to put in his scar. He has more, but most of them are located in areas covered by his clothes. So if I ever draw him shirtless I guess I’ll have to place them somewhere.
Also maybe finish the reference sheets I have left to finish so I can post more of them, since I have two “Pets” completed (Roko and Mona’s nameless pet), but I have to do up Hunter, Warlock, Assassin, Akira, Myuut, and Stella. I’m betting when I do complete two more, it’ll be Hunter and Akira. Those two are the most fun to draw, at least.
#the disappointment speaks#drawings by me#OCs#D&D#art dump#Miitopia#of all of these drawings I gotta say the most cursed is censored bottom!Axel and the most blessed is Cecillia's lap nap#I drew a lot of D&D stuff lately! Most of my OC stuff has stayed in the sketch stage so#I guess that says something about what I've been prioritizing in my drawings?#Also that drawing a twunk as a twink is incredibly funny and cursed. love my pirate boy
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ok deakin uni are we 100% sure we want this fuckers name on our university like i know we were all racist in the 20s but uhhhhhhhhh like im Just saying
more rambling about prime ministers in the service of wooorldbuillding???? (????) under the cut
WAIT DEAKIN IS ONLY 50- GUYS. WHAT. WHY. THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN KNOWN INFO. WHY DID WE NAME THE UNIVERSITY AFTER HIM. bro. Bro. Bros? Lads? Dudes? My fellas? what the fuck were you doing naming a university in 1974 after a pm who was Big Boy behind white australia my fucking God. what the fuck. Yall? The fuck. Why. ok when i name this fake fucking university in ACitDS (the uni isnt actually located in UWG though) im naming it for a fucking good prime minister. which might be hard but im gonna try my best to find someone whose at least DECENT. like.... my first thought in menzies but god i would hate to go to a school named for him bc the amount of bullshit that would come from pronouncing his name the scottish way would drive me Fucking Insane. Mingies. Im not going to a school named mingers, yall.
uhh lets find a pm. god seeing scomos face startles me everytime. im just hoping shorten has a nice photo lined up. was watson decent. ‘first socialist or social democratic government’ alright im down for this. he was only leader for 4 months but its a precedent thing. he seems like a cool dude. fisher is also cool. can you tell im picking labor prime ministers yet? one issue - he’s from ql. and watson was from nsw. fuckers. wheres a good vic pm who isnt taken (im think curtin was victorian, dont quote me on that). im not counting hughes, if hes even a vic. nope, new south, dammit. mother fuckers. SCULLIN WAS FROM VICTORIA, ok we’re fucking getting somewhere now. alright. wait what am i doing it Says their electorate in the main p- fuck me ok. ok. alright.
jesus hughes what the Fuck
anyway uhh most of the vic guys are kinda eeehhhh so im down for Scullin i guess. Scullin University, lmao. ALSO
FUCKING DAMMIT CURTIN
but i guess scullin university, then? if we wanna keep it at least vaguely associated. he was a labor guy rather than a... uh......liiiberal? i guess. so theres that. but id rather have it be like.... a good guy. not that it really matters in the scheme of things because the hypothetical Scullin University (located in fucking, i dont know, Norwood Melbourne, eat my ass) isn’t actually like. a real presence for ACitDS? like im considering that there MIGHT be a joiner there (have Thomas really get around, though it all ultimately comes home) but having any part of the game take place as Scullin seems weird bc it implies its during the trimester. and its during the trimester, Thomas really cant justify doing all this Absolute Fucking Nonsense. I believe in the dream it was actually the end of trimester 1, with the game starting basically on their last day. which means they were born in may, since their birthday was riiiight before. that doesnt preclude any of the game taking place at or adjacent to Scullin, because there is the whole month of break b/w tris 1 and 2 and since Thomas is an art student they probably have to go pick up their folios which gives them an excuse t be in the area. but at the same time i dont know where a joiner would be (well, i Do, sort of) and it raises bigger timeframe risks in terms of the time of day. like... thomas has to get home. and trust me mother fuckers, if thomas was in the hole too long that is a fuck of a trip home. the tram runs till late. the uhhhhh 732 runs.... hmm. lemme check hold on homies... ok thomas is fine for getting to like, Knox City (Kent City? whatever) but its getting HOME thats the stickler. god the new ptv site is trash on desktop, i cant see SHIT. maps are nice but i wanna actually like.... see the options im being given. bitch. ok put it this way. if thomas leaves at 8pm, theyre fine. sort of. having to get a tram and 3 buses home isnt ideal by any stretch but its doable. if thomas leaves at 9pm, theyre fucked. you cant get home. theyd basically have to walk the whole fucking way from deakin to vermont south. sorry, Scullion to whatever South. good luck!
like. good fucking luck thomas. its an hour to walk to the 732 at that time of night so if you miss that tram youre fucked. even if thomas makes it to vermont south, apparently theres basically jack shit between 9pm and 5am soooo good luck.
its not necessarily a huge issue because it could always work on narnia logic. but im not super into the idea of having it be very dilated. plus, idk, maaaybe thomas lives near a train station. i dont think they do. because i know i dont. but yknow. hypothetically. well ok theres a bunch of services between vermont and knox in the Dark Hours but then they have to get home. its like an hour walk. after fighting demons and angels thomas is gonna be fucking knackered. absolutely not walking for an hour to get home. theyd be more likely to crash at a friends place on Res at Scullion. i dont even know if youre allowed to do that. one sec. well, technically, but if its between semesters???? eh. idk. be a Lillllll funky on that front. idk. i do really like the idea of having one of the ‘day’ transitions being thomas half asleep on a bus/tram/train, though. so we could easily just handwave it and say that they live close enough to a station or transport hub that its essentially accessible at awkward hours of the night. plus its like, if the day starts in the morning, it being late evening for that seems fair. well, late evening as in like..... 8pm or smth. since thats a fair enough time to my mind. 12 hours all up, maybe?
idk. i think this baaasically works. Thomas [SUR. NAME] lives in Upper Wattle Gully in the south eastern suburbs, and attends Scullion University in Norwood. anyone who lives out my way know immediately what all of that means. ;)
#story blogging#yay? i guess! thatll do#thomas still needs a surname. alexander maybe? that sounds cute
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Saiyuki meme part 2
34) What character do you think is least like yourself?
~Probably Ukoku. I’m not a psychopath or sociopath looking to snuff out life and light. And he’s super cunning and manipulative.
35) What is a shipping you’re not on board with? (Be respectful!)
~I pretty much ship nearly everything under the sun for the most part. Or can at least understand or respect a ship. I ship I wouldn’t really be on board with though would be Li Touten x Nataku. Or Dokugakuji’s mom x Doku/Gojyo. Just not my thing.
36 ) Which Saiyuki character do you think could easily adjust to modern times?
~I’d say nearly all the main cast. I think they’ve all been through so much & they’ve learned to get really good with adapting and rolling with the punches. But if I had to narrow it down, perhaps Goku. Followed closely by Gojyo. They seem the most easy going & quickly accepting & adaptable. Likewise, I think Kougaiji would be one of the ones who would struggle the most perhaps.
37) What is your favorite quote?
~There’s A LOT of good ones. Seeing as I have the opposite of a photographic memory... I can’t remember what my fav would be. A really good, memorable one though is where Kou overcame Ukoku’s mind control & gave him the whole speech where he wont be controlled again & his friends helped him to the light. Idk, something to that effect. Maybe I’ll come back to this question later after I find the exact lines.
38) Do you binge read the entire series or read selected chapters?
~Usually when I binge read or binge watch, it’s from start to finish on the entire series. If I just want to research something or remember a specific thing, it’s selected chapters.
39) Are you more a fan of Gensomaden Saiyuki or Saiyuki Reload/Gunlock?
~With the anime, Gensomaden. With the manga, its definitely Reload.
40) Your favorite character became a mythical beast. What would they be?
~This.... is a tough one. If I wanted to take the easy option, I’d say it would be Kougaiji and he’d totally be a dragon. Or if I wanted to be funny, saying Gojyo being a kappa. I could see Hakkai being the male form of a Dryad. But I think my favorite is Sanzo... and the only thing I can think of to liken him to is the Phoenix. Sanzo’s “like the sun” and Phoenix is a sun bird. Phoenix’s rise from the ashes and Sanzo got burned by Kou’s fire and still rose to his feet.
41) If you HAD to choose a character to die, who would it be?
~Well, this doesn’t say -MAIN- character. I wish I could say Ukoku... that would spare everyone so much misery... but I like the psycho bastard. So...Gyokumen Koushu. Then maybe Kou would get his mom back & he could team up with Sanzo!
42) Would you rather: Have all characters die or Have only one survive
~The question is.... would it be like Goku? Have them forget & then be reunited with the reincarnations? On one hand, it would be nice to have one survive to carry on the memory of everyone who died. But....I feel like there’s something incredibly unfair & cruel about having only one survive... so I guess I’d rather them all die.
43) If [character] got into a fight with [character] who would win?
~Lol its hard to do these ones when I’m just answering them myself.
44) What does Gojyo’s marking look like to you?
~I answered this one already, basically, a tribal flame
45) If Sanzo became a demon, what kind of marking do you think he’d have?
~I kinda wanna say something like the youkai Suika. Something small & round on his forehead in place of the chakra. Or it would probably be somewhere more discrete like his back or upper arm, a red color instead of black...idk the shape/design.
46) If [character] died, what do you think they’d be reborn as?
~I think Zakuro would love to be reborn in the golden age (Elizabethanera) cuz that’s when theatre, music, poetry & literature flourished. Perhaps Kougaiji/Hazel in the Victorian age and Ukoku in the Edwardian era... I know that’s not what the questions asking, but it is interesting to think diff era’s you’d put them in.
47) After the journey, what do you think [character] will be doing?
~Hmm... I’ll just stick with Gojyo for this one. Assuming he’s still alive after the journey. I think he’d stick with Hakkai. (grudingly)Helping out around the shop if Hakkai worked/owned a shop. I could see Gojyo maybe being a bar tender or an escort/host... or whatever those equivalents are in the Saiyuki era, or just keeps raking in money with his gambling while being domestic with Hakkai.
48) If [character] had a tumblr, what would they reblog?
~This one’s a fun question. I think if Gojyo had a tumblr, the majority would reflect the 3 things he likes most- women, booze, and smokes. Probably sprinkle in some selfies of himself being all sexy, cheesy pick up lines and puns, maybe some crude jokes, more scantily clad women, and gambling tips. Then there’s probably some stuff he’d reblog for the sake of Sanzo,Hakkai, and Goku if they had tumblr as well. Monkey posts to tease Goku, life hacks for Hakkai, & random stuff that would piss off Sanzo. Probably jokes about cranky old men or something.
49) What is your favorite animated scene?
~umm.... idk... all of Gaiden?
50) [Character]; Boxers, briefs, or commando?
~I feel like Gojyo would have an occasion for all three. Briefs when he’s planning to get with a lady or impress. Boxers when he’s lounging with the boys. And sometimes commando, mainly when sleeping if he has his own room.
51) What 3 or more tropes fits your favorite character?
~ummm.... running gag, ship tease, and funny moments. (gojyo)
52) What are 3 tropes that describe [character]?
~fiery redhead, the alcoholic, and jerk with a heart of gold (gojyo)
53) If Saiyuki got a 4th series, what would it be called?
~Well now that there is a 4th season coming out... Saiyuki Reload Blast XD (now we just need an Ibun OVA!!!)
54) If your favorite character could control an element, what would it be?
~Fav charater’s always been between Sanzo and Kougaiji... though recently I often wonder if it’s not Hazel now. I think Lightning suits Sanzo. Fire for Kou. And Ice for Hazel. Earth for Goku & Hakkai. Wind for Yaone.
55) Was there a character you used to love but no longer do?
~I dont think so actually. I think everyone I love I still do and everyone I hate I still do.
56) What has been the saddest moment for you in the series?
~Yakumo’s death. Yakumo’s whole chapter arc. And the end of Gaiden.
57) What is your favorite anime/manga genre?
~Psychological thriller/horror (but I also like romance & action & drama)
58) Name 5 other characters you like along with your fav Saiyuki character.
~Spike Spiegel, Axel, Seto Kaiba, Zelos Wilder, Alvin Svent, and Snow Villiers
59) Do you prefer subbed or dubbed anime?
~Dubbed. But most of the time subbed is 100 x’s better... obviously.
60) Did you watch the anime first or read the manga?
~Gensomaden anime came first.
61) Do you seek out spoilers or avoid at all cost?
~I avoid them at all cost, most of the time. Unless it’s something I’m not planning to watch or read.
62) Do you write fan fics or draw fan art? If so, link!
~I do, on both accounts. I don’t have any Saiyuki fanfics though. If anyone really want links, I’ll send them privately in IM’s. My Saiyuki fanart can all be found on my blog. Other fan art of diff fandoms is on DA. I only have a couple of completed fanfics on fanfiction.net... most of my work isn’t finished so that’s not really worth linking, I wouldn’t think.
63) What was the most pointless filler in the anime?
~I can’t really think of anything... maybe the sauna one where Goku thinks Sanzo turns into a demon. Or the kitty one. Don’t get me wrong, I loved both those episodes... but in regards to the plot, they don’t contribute a thing.
64) How do you describe Saiyuki to a friend who has never heard of it?
~Four guys travel west to stop the resurrection of a demon lord. Um... there’s lots of humor and action. It’s amazing. It’s.... kinda gay without actually being gay.
65) If you RP what is your favorite thing to Roleplay?
~answered this one~
66) What is your favorite Saiyuki Opening or Ending for the animes?
~The opening for Gaiden is very gorgeous, perhaps that one <3
67) What’s something you think would improve the series?
~HAVING MORE MANGA TRANSLATED AND PUBLISHED HERE IN AMERICA! And bring back some minor characters, that’d be cool to see.
68) Who, in your opinion, has the most tragic backstory?
~Geez... that’s like comparing a life time of stomach issues to someone who has a life time of mental illness... both are equally tragic. If I HAD to pick.... Yakumo.... I’m just gonna go with Yakumo. Technically, it’s not really a backstory but what’s he was presently doing. Having such a kind, soft heart... wanting nothing more but to save, shelter, and raise youkai kids... and choosing to kill them when they go berserk, perhaps with the whole mentality of ‘kill a few to save the whole’. It’s so tragic. Other than that, I can’t choose 1 over the other for tragic back stories cuz everyone has it equally bad in some way.
I guess I can say the tie would be between Gojyo, Sanzo, Hakkai, Goku, Dokugakuji, Hazel, and Nataku.
69) Who would be best at pleasing their lover?
~It kinda depends on what said lover wants most our of their partner and if it’s true love or a fling. If they both knew what they were doing, Goku & Kou would be very thorough, patient, and thoughtful lovers. Gojyo would be best at bringing the skill/pleasure in a pure sexual aspect. Hakkai’s difficult to pin down. He’d be gentle with the same qualities I listed for Gok/Kou.... but he’d have this wall up at the same time. Sanzo... just probably wouldn’t be the best, if he got intimate at all to begin with. Hazel’s so... antagonistic. I’ll just go with Gojyo or Dokugakuji.
70) What do you think Saiyuki would be like if Kougaiji and co were the main protagonists? Do you think you’d still enjoy it?
~A lot less humor and more dark because it would be more from the “villains” POV. Kou’s kinda angsty. I don’t think Saiyuki would be as well recieved and loved from Kougaiji’s & co’s pov... and there’s several characters we might have missed out on.... but I think it’s something I would still really enjoy. If its written by Kazuya Minekura, she’d make it amazing regardless.
71) What minor character had a significant impact on the plot?
~I think that would have to be Hazel Grouse.
72) On a scale from 1 - 10, 1 being not much and 10 being too much, how much does Saiyuki Gaiden hurt you?
~TEN
73) What character is still a mystery to you?
~Perhaps Koumyou or Ukoku (maybe even Yaone in the sense that we kinda know next to nothing about her... that I can recall). But with Koumyou especially, both of them are just so complex & different than I am that they’re difficult for me to understand.
74) What is the funniest moment in the series?
~It really says something about how much a perv I really am if the very first scene that pops into my mind after thinking about what my fav moment could be is.... Gojyo & Goku wrestling & arguing on the bed and that lady walks in & thinks they’re doing, or about to do, something naughty. Oddly, I Really like the scene where Gojyo mimics Sanzo too.
75) Who is your favorite minor character?
~Hazel or Banri or Zenon ...... Yakumo & Zakuro are p great too
76) Which character has had the most growth?
~I think that would have to be Goku
77) Which character needs more development?
~hmmmm........Lirin maybe?
#Saiyuki meme#part 2#good lord this was long & took forever#but I wanted to do it for myself just for the hell of it & it was fun#when Im up all night with stomach issues & too tired to do anything else this was kinda a blessing
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Do all the asks, if you have time. I'm especially curious about number 14 from the story time asks.
ask #2
Tattoos: What is art to you? Does it have an important place in your life? things that people make. yes
Soil: Something that you have grown from, or that has helped you grow. tbh my life as a whole
Dusk: Name something that captivates you. the sky
Ravens: What is something you are inexplicably drawn to? the sky, water, and skateboarding oddly enough
Natural curls: List some things that you like/love about yourself. at this moment in time not much
Zack: Describe someone you love. (Can be s/o, friend, family member, fictional character) i really love my mom. she cares all the time.
Pomegranates: Talk about something that is meaningful or has personal significance to you. music.
The Smiths: Share some artists, songs or albums that you adore. ajr, pwr bttms right now
Jars: Do you collect anything? If so, what do you collect and why? coins, money, boxes, instruments, books, regrets, metal
Mountains: Do you have any sanctuaries, or places you feel at peace in? my room, the youth room, sometimes trees i need to find a good tree
Hugs: Is there anything/anyone that helps keep you going on the really rough days? my mom, music
Caves: Something that terrifies yet also fascinates you? space, water, music, relationships
Mythology: Is there anything you have a vast knowledge of or enjoy studying? a good few things
Ruins: Are there any places in the world that you would love to see or visit? rome hawaii the gay parts of canada
Road Trips: What gives you that sense of freedom and adventure? walking alone at night
Megan: Is there anyone in your life that you admire? my mom
Bubble Baths: Where or in what situations do you think most clearly? in ones where i have a bubble of space and can think and are not about relationships
Evening Walks: Are there any things you do that put your mind at ease? music
Amy: Is there anyone in your life you would consider to be a kindred spirit? my mom
Crossroads: You are at the crossroads and there are four roads. The road going north will take you somewhere or to someone that is home. The one going east will be a long journey that you will learn from, a message will be given to you. The road leading south will be an epic, unpredictable adventure. The west road leads you down a beautiful path to a body of water, where you may bathe and heal from something that you have endured. Which road do you choose and why? in this moment I'm not really up to adventure so probably just north
Folk Metal: Tell me about something you get really excited about. music
Full Moon: Describe an experience you had that was somehow related to the moon. i was at my grandmas and i was just thinking about how i had wanted someone with me to see how nice it was so i was going to draw it but i never did
Live Music: Have you ever been to a concert? If so, what were some of your favorite ones you’ve been to? If not, who or what would you love to see? yes. I've loved all of them because I've loved the people that I've gone with. still pissed that i missed oh pep and i really want to see them.
Spill your thoughts
01: Do you have a good relationship with your parents? yeah02: Who did you last say “I love you” to? my mom03: Do you regret anything? probably
04: Are you insecure? yes05: What is your relationship status? single06: How do you want to die? hm. quickly ig07: What did you last eat? cookies that were not for me08: Would you want to know what happens in the future if you couldn’t change it? i think so because then i wouldnt have to waste my time09: Do you bite your nails? i used to a lot now i dont usually10: When was your last fight? dont remember 11: Do you like someone? i dont think so12: Have you ever pulled an all-nighter? Why? i couldn't make it because i never sleep enough anyway13: Do you hate anyone at the moment? donald trump14: Do you miss someone? yes15: What would you see in the Mirror of Erised? (What do you most desire?) people around me16: How exactly are you feeling at the moment? not much. not good17: Ever made out in the bathroom? i dont think so. I've been kissed in a bathroom and got a hickey in a bathroom though18: What are you afraid of? the dark. being left behind. 19: Would you go back in time if you were given the chance? probably 20: Where was the last place you made out with someone? my bed21: What are your plans for this weekend? i went to wisconsin then i didn't do anything today except feel shitty22: Do you want to have kids? How many? adoption. as many as i can handle, 2-323: Do you have piercings? How many? no24: What is/are/were your best subject(s)? i like science and math, though i never study either25: Do you miss anyone from your past? yes26: What are you craving right now? how i felt yesterday27: Have you ever broken someone’s heart? maybe28: Have you ever been cheated on? i hope not29: Have you made a boyfriend/girlfriend cry? yes30: What’s irritating you right now? a lot of things31: Does somebody love you? my mom said she did a little while ago so32: What is your favorite color? blue33: Do you have trust issues? yes34: Who/what was your last dream about? dont know35: Who was the last person you cried in front of? people yesterday36: Do you give out second chances too easily? yes37: Is it easier to forgive or forget? forgive38: Is this year the best year of your life? no39: How old were you when you had your first kiss? 14 i think40: Have you ever walked outside completely naked? maybe when i was tiny51: What is one book everyone needs to read? I'm sure there is one but i can't think of anything52: Do you believe everything happens for a reason? probably 53: What is the last thing you did before you went to bed last night? watched too much skateboarding youtube54: Is cheating ever okay? i dont really think so55: Are you mean? i hope not56: How many people have you fist fought? outside of martial arts like maybe 257: Do you believe in true love? i dont think so58: Favorite weather? nice59: What is your perfect day look like? i dont know60: Do you wanna get married? i dont know 61: Is it cute when a boy/girl calls you baby? in any context at this moment no62: What makes you happy? music friends 63: Would you change your name? yeah64: Would it be hard to kiss the last person you kissed? no65: Your best friend of the opposite sex likes you, what do you do? say sorry66: Do you have a friend of the opposite sex who you can act your complete self around? not really 67: Who was the last person of the opposite sex you talked to? my brother68: Who’s the last person you had a deep conversation with? probably rhys69: Do you believe in soulmates? maybe70: Is there anyone you would die for? yes
Clean and Simple
A. What makes life worth it? good question
B. Hidden talents? i dunnoC. Last book you read? frankensteinD. Are you seeing anyone? i dont see anyone right now because I'm alone and also noE. What color do you look best in? let me knowF. Favorite place to nap? my roomG. Last film you saw? boys dont cryH. Best advice you’ve given? dont do itI. How many languages can you say hello in? a few probably J. How often do you nap? not oftenK. Favorite fast food? meatheads friesL. Piano or drums? drums because i find piano really hard. both are hardM. First thing you ate today? i think a piece of brownieN. Best Birthday party you’ve attended? i dont know. ones with friends O. What’s your typical Tuesday? school soccer homeP. Celeb you’d most like to meet? kaitlyn alexanderQ. Weirdest phone call you’ve had? i dont normally call people R. Favorite memory? sleepS. Who gives the best hugs? this girl from my church retreat gave really good hugs and so do my friendsT. Sitting on laps or piggy back rides? as long as I'm not on topU. Best holiday song? white christmas is my first thoughtV. Last shoes you bought? no ideaW. What’s your skin care routine? badX. Coolest thing about your best friend? artY. What’d you have for lunch two nights ago? uhhhhh Z. Something kind you’ve done recently? i was nice to people yesterday
Story time
Put a number in my ask and I'll tell you about a personal story/experience with that theme!1. Happy story? when i got into my school
2. Injury story? I sprained my ankle running down the stairs on easter3. Funny story? me saying “i would eat- CELIA” 4. Scary story? i almost died under an inter tube 5. Random story? my dog and i breathe the same sometimes6. Sad story? my dog died from cancer my day off of school7. Secret story? (A story you have never told anyone before) 8. Infuriating story? when the varsity soccer coach acts nice but she is not9. Awkward story? i threw my phone in the closet after telling my friend i was gay10. Fun story? i caught a turtle because it bit me one time11. Self incriminating story? i stole $20 from my brother one time because he had more money than me12. Embarrassing story? i dyed my hair green and gold 13. Weird story? my friend opened my other friends photos and the first photo that popped up was a dick pic14. Oddly sexual story? I've only made out standing up once and it was not super serious. Also i almost stuck my hand down someones pants because i am competitive15. Face-palming story? “where do you wanna dye?”16. Food story? i like carrots and ketchup 17. School/college/work story? my mom is friends with my principal. its weird.18. Illness story? my brother got a concussion from snow tubing and he only had this really tiny cut19. Event story? (Something that happened at a public event) i got kissed but paid more attention to the music my friend didn't20. Boring story? today i watched 5 episode of bones
100 questions to invade my personal life
1. What's your middle name, and do you like it? jane, not terribly2. are you artistic? nope3. Have you had your first kiss? yes4. What is your life goal? graduate college, do something cool, get a nice house with bookshelves and a music room5. Do you have any expieriences with a famous person? I'm friends with this family who are in the tv and play industry and my nickname is nugget6. Do you play any sports? soccer, martial arts7. What's your worst fear? dark, being left8. Who's your biggest inspiration? mom9. Do you have any cool talents? music?10. are you a morning person? not really11. How do you feel about pet names? they're kinda weird but sometimes nice12. Do you like to read? yeah but I'm shit at actually doing it now13. Name a list of shows that have changed your life. glee and a few others ig14. Do you care about your follower count? no ( but i have 295)15. What's the best dream you've had? can't remember16. Have you ever kissed someone of your same gender? yes17. Do you have any pets? yea i have a beagle18. Are you religious? yes19. Are you a people person? sometimes20. Are you considered popular? i used to at least21. What is one of your bad habits? worrying about not working but not working but also not resting22. What's something that makes you feel vulnerable not enough clothes, no sound23. What would you name your children? gender neutral names24. Who's your celebrity crush? kaitlyn alexander? i mean i wanna meet them25. What's your best subject? english is easy but i like math and science26. Dogs or cats? dogs27. most used social media besides tumblr? snapchat usually28. best friends name rhys29. who does your main family consist of my mom dad brother dog30. Chocolate or sugar both31. have you ever been on a date? yes32. Do you like roleercosters? no33. Can you swim? yes34. What would you do in the event of an apocalypse? i would probably try my best to live or just give up and fuck someone (dealing with extremes i guess)35. Have you struggled with any kind of mental disorder? yes. i still have to do intake for a therapist but its only at certain times and my mom has missed it a couple times36. Are your parents together? yes37. What's your favourite color? blue38. What country are you from/do you live in? us39. Favourite singer? tyler joseph i guess40. Do you see yourself being famous some day? not really but i wish41. Do you like dresses? no42. Favourite song right now? let the games begin or pitchfork kids43. Does talking about sex make you uncomfortable? yes. but it needs to be talked about44. How old were you when you first got your period? i think 1245. Have you ever shot a gun? yes46. Have you ever done yoga? yes47. Are you a horror girl? god no48. Are you good at giving advice? reasonably49. Tell us a story about your childhood. i would count and organize coins instead of going outside50. How are you doing today? nope51. Were you a cute kid? i guess52. Can you dance? if I'm given something to learn53. Is there anything you do that you can't remember ever not doing?54. Have you ever dyed your hair? yes55. What colour are your eyes? blue/green56. What's your favourite animal? turtle57. Have you ever made a huge fool of yourself? yeah58. Do you have a good relationship with your parents? yes59. Do you have good friends? i guess60. Are you close with anyone of the lgbtq+ group? hahaha yes I'm gay61. What's your favourite class? guitar is fun and i like physics even though its hard62. List all the tv shows you are watching. i just started watching bones63. Are you organized? some places yes, others no64. What was the last movie you saw? Opinion? boys dont cry. i thought it was a little weird but it was an important movie for trans and lgb+ representation67. Which tv character do you relate to most? all i can think of is Lance and head canons i saw today68. What are some things that stand between you and complete happiness? knowledge, time, other people, situations69. If you received enough money to never need to work again, what would you spend your time doing? learning and teaching about the environment and lgbtqia+ stuff70. What would you change about your life if you knew you would never die? i would probably procrastinate more and maybe learn how to like everything and probably try to kill myself after a while because everyone i loved would die71. What would you do differently if you knew that no one was judging you? id probably kiss more people who knows72. If you could start over, what would you do differently? dont get attached73. Would you break the law to save a loved one? yes74. When was the last time you travelled somewhere new? i went to madison wisconsin a little while ago75. When you think of your home, what immediately comes to mind? my mom, warmth, my dog, blankets and tv76. What have you done to pursue your dreams lately? How about today? not much, absolutely nothing77. What did you want to be when you were a kid? pediatrician 78. If you dropped everything to pursue your dreams, what would you be risking? i dont know i dont really have much in the first place79. When did you not speak up, when you know you really should have? when i shouldn't have distanced my problems 80. Describe the next five years of your life, and your plans, in a single sentence I'm gonna go to college and maybe live with some friends and still play music81. What would happen if you never wasted another minute of your life, what would that look like? i would have written 3 plays and a book, be in a band, get 5s in both ap tests and get all a’s and know how to ride a skateboard and be organized and my room would look nice and i would have scholarships already applied to. just a lot of things82. If you could live forever, how would you spend eternity? probably learn for a bit then just play video games or something83. How would you spend a billion dollars? probably save it or use it to keep my grandmas house. There are a lot of financial issues with that.84. If you could time travel, would you go to the past or the future? maybe future to see if it gets better85. What motivates you to succeed? right now not much. my mom86. What dream that you’ve had has resonated with you the most? idk87. Would you rather live in the city or the woods? Why? city. i like to travel to the woods but not live there88. Do you believe in life after death? i hope so, i think just dying would be boring89. What teacher inspired you the most? How did they? I've had a lot of great teachers but i think davey inspired me to learn about the world and meacham helps me think about myself and others90. What’s your fondest childhood memory? lemonade stand91. If you could have dinner with any one person, living or dead, who would they be and why? alexander hamilton maybe so i could see what he was thinking when he did all that he did, and so maybe he could help us out and also see how gay he was92. What would you have to see to cry tears of joy? depends on the day, probably something i would think is jesusy93. What is the hardest lesson you had to learn in life? hm. i still havent learned how to care for myself but to be respectful of other people and to really think of things from an even standpoint.94. What do you think happens after we die? i like to hope it isn't nothingness95. What would you do if you would be invisible? pantsy a lot of people. maybe steal some stuff96. What's something you can't do no matter how hard you try? do my work apparently 97. Would you want to choose the sex and appearance of your offspring? nah 98. How did your first crush develop? friendship to wow i really miss this person99. Is there a feeling you are trying to ignore? What is it? a feeling of hatred towards myself, a feeling of confusion at a dynamic, a feeling of angst over my feelings towards relationships and the fact that i wish i could just figure what i want out100. Do you live or do you just exist? right now I'm staying at exist so i dont go crazy trying to live
alright i think thats it, i kept being pulled away and not being able to do this sorry
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Also HELL YES FOR CASUAL PLAYER LOVE
Im so happy to hear that Let's Go is indeed INTENTIONALLY designed to be "more casual" and everything these super anti-casual conpetitive players are complaining about was intentionalky put in there cos the developers legit think its better. THANK YOU!
i dunno man it just seems like we NEVER heae about the developers doing anything for the fans unless its enablibg competitive play or iv breeding or whatever. Like those are the only definitions of "fans" that interviewers seem to care about. And Its hard to know what the developers really think when the questions that are asked leave out a huge componant of the fanbase, yknow?
And uhh.. I mean its just good to specificially know that theyre okay with casual fans existing, like not just "its for kids" but "hey you are not bad if you are an adult who also enjoys the game for its intended appeal points and not for a huge mega complicated mathematical metagame people made up to be 'more mature'". I was really surprised to see that written interview with masuda specifically mentioning IV breeding as the place where conpetitive goes too far and makes the game not fun anymore. "Pokemon wasn't meant to be a game about hatching eggs and nothing else." Like.. Playing competitively itself is not bad, i dont wanna sound like i hate hardcore fans and im a big ol jerk. I admire the dedication because it all seems so super unattainable and mathematically magical to me! Im not into that stuff but i can admire that you have to be a damn genius to achieve all that stuff. BUT i also get what he's saying. Because it sucks when you HAVE to be a damn genius to EVEN START PLAYING! Whenever high level competitive strats become the goddamn baseline it makes competitive completely inaccessable to everyone except the most hardcore of the hardcore, and its like damn man how do you even become that if you have no way to start practising? Iv breeding is so INSANE in retrospect! Like when you think about it, its wild that people even cracked the code for how to game the system and get the highest possible randomized stats for every ridiculously minor thing. Like how the fuck did they even figure out any of this?? And then all the further madness into figuring out how to attain it and how to raise odds of shinys and hidden abilities and how they keep figuring out new ways to do it with every new system each game brings out. And then people will spend friggin LITERAL DAYS OF REAL TIME running up and down the same road in the game, hatching thousands of eggs just to get the one mathematically superior pokemon from a confluence of random events. And this is treated as fuckin REQUIRED to play the game! You can't touch competitive if you dont do it. And these bad sorts of competitive players will try and force this requirement onto other non-competitive parts of the game, and shame casual players for not doing it even though its literally not what they want to play the game for.
Seriously, man! Individual values were just designed to make individual pokemon more random, so the play experience would seem more unique to each run. It was literally invented for a "casual" reason! It just really sucks that they implimented it in a way that had an objective "best" value to get, so people ignored the whole point of "adding personality" and just wanted that one. Tho i mean at least they patched out the early issue where gender and shinyness were linked to these values so you couldnt get certain types of pokemon as the "best" version and it was even more limiting. Glad that GSC didnt have online metagame yet, lol! (Tho it makes it possible for people to more easily predict which pokenon will become Shiny when transferred from rby to gsc, which is neat.)
ANYWAY WHERE WAS I
Oh yeah! I appreciate that each generation of games lately has made it easier to see your IVs and EVs and to get them to their "best" versions, with even the FUCK YEAH feature pf being able to "fix" bad IVs on level 100 pokemon. I carried my Sneasel named Reaper since RSE and he's been completely unuseable for so long and bottlecaps fixed that! Kid me just played the game like he was my starter and i loved him. I didnt know about IVs or EVs, so i took this terribly-statted dude with a bad ability and made him fight all the wrong pokemon because he is my best friend and he needs to win every gym battle and i will buy him lemonades afterward. Also he wore the Blackglasses item forever cos i thougjt itd be cool if you could put accessories on your pokemon. So yeah i did Everything Wrong and thus all the pokemon i actually cared about were made weak and useless by my love and i had to spend 48 hours running down a stupid road to hatch and abandon 1400 new ones just to get one that was "useable". Thanks to bottlecaps, this is no more! Decade old weasel pals can be revived! Tho still it sucks that i hit level 100 before this mon's evolution came out. Alas!
BUT
Like.. Even tho now its slightly less hard to make a "perfect" pokemon its still tedious as hell and really takes you out of the moment and you have to already know beforehand that its necessary. Kids are just gonna blunder in and not even know why they keep losing due to no fault of their own. Adults are gonna also do that. Seriously this isnt a "kiddy fans vs mature fans" or "non fans versus FANS" thing, this is just "fans who have one very specific skill for memorizing a bunch of numbers and steps and enduring hours of boredom doing it vs..people who think that kinda ruins the game". And even if nintendo fully streamlined the process into sonething easy, itd still feel like an unnecessary roadblock in the way of just getting to play the damn game. We really need to add some sort of hardcore/casual or iv breeding/no iv breeding thing to league divisions, as well as the tier lists. This is why im so hyped for the current "Spooky Cup", since it actually seems like a "just for fun" multiplayer experience, and its kinda dumb that we have to rely on nintendo actually programming limitations into a tournement cos the players refuse to allow anyone to just do it normally. I did a big whoop at "no mega stones" and "everyone gets a participation prize even if they lose"! And the limitations being a random event based thing rather than a skill cap! Yay ghost types!! Reminds me of the baby pokemon only tourneys in the n64 games. That was a kind of hardcore challenge that had a bit of creativity to it!
So anyway anyway what i'm getting at...
I'm just happy that the devs are saying "yes this is a casual game with more of what casual players want, and less of those hardcore limitations" and THATS NOT MEANT TO BE A NEGATIVE!! Actual developers sitting on a couch hugging giant pikachu plushies and saying this game is for people who just want a fun game about..well, hugging pikachus! They changed the way you catch pokemon because they wanted it to be more fun. They brought back following pokemon because fun. You get all these new features for your starter because they wanted you to really feel like a kid going on their first pokemon adventure and sharing all these special moments with pikachu! They talked about how the art style was decided upon because it was the closest to "how you imagined it in your head when you played pokemon yellow", and "if it was photorealistic it just wouldnt feel right". They picked eevee for the second option because they actually paid attention to the fans and which pokemon was the second most popular and had a similar "both cute and cool" appeal with all audiences. And they put the most effort into the visuals and the cuteness and making everything just feel like a good and fun adventure that recaptures everything you wanted as a kid playing the first game.
And they just act so unapologetically HAPPY about all these parts of the game! These are their favourite parts! They're the goddamn DEVELOPERS and even they say that they prefer the story and the characters and the relaxing childlike whimsy to the concept of refining gameplay to a ridiculous hardcore perfection and throwing out everything else in pursuit of that. And man, seeing them hugging the big pika and eev plushies in EVERY PROMOTIONAL VIDEO and just enjoying playing their own game so much!! And babbling on about dressing up your pokemon!!
God its just SO GOOD to see this as a fan who's been here since the very beginnibg and is starting to feel quite self concious about being an adult fan who isnt doing it "properly". Like man the pressure of hardcore competotive being the "only right way" started even when i was just 11, like seriously THE AGE THE ACTUAL TRAINERS ARE IN THE GODDAMN GAME. Before you even hit your teens you already got stuck up older kids telling you you were too old to just enjoy a game cos you enjoyed the damn game, noooo you have to make it as unfun as possible and only derive enjoyment from defeating other people. It took me until ORAS to actually even be able to try competitive at all, i found it so overwhelming until they added other methods to EV train. And even then i still felt like the blandness of the preparation outweighed any fun of playing these "higher level" battles. Like sure maybe some people like that stuff but it felt so dissappointing after all these years of being pressured to try it...
Sometimes its just good to enjoy a game cos you legit like the world and characters. Sometimes its just really validating to see the developers talking about enjoying making those things, cos it gives you permission to be less embarrassed about it. Sometimes its good to also see them hugging a hundred dollar giant pikachu while you hug your hundred dollar giant mimikyu. Cos seriously what is the point of being an adult if youre not allowed to buy these adult sized plushies? What kid could ever afford those! Im not letting my childhood dream pass me by just because ~maturity~ when im finally able to slap a fat wad of cash on the table and yell GIVE ME THE BIGGEST CHU
I will embrace all my pure childhood love and enjoy this game of just huggins and nothing else! And i really like this concept for the series, if they continue doing Let's Go as a spinoff so we'd have a set of games appealing to each of the casual and hardcore demographics. I always feel bad complaining about hardcore when really my actual opinion on it is just "its not for me" and im actually only complaining about the rude fans who tell me im not a real fan unless i like their genre of stuff. Dude i was three years old when pokemon came out, i think ive earned my right by seniority to hug a plushie or two! So itd be awesome if hardcore doods could get their super hardcore game too, and we could just argue less cos we'd each be able to enjoy what we enjoy. Tho i mean the main series games already have a pretty clear divide between story/fun being the main game and hardcore competitive being a postgame thing. And yet we still get all this fandom fightibg over "ignore the actual 90% of the game, skip the plotline and only play competitive" apparantly being the "real" way to play it. Like man im worried that attitude is still gonna stick arpund even if they do give us separate games appealing to each side of the fandom?
EHHH WHATEVER! Im just gonna sit here in my corner of casual hugs and work on my self confidence to be able to stop feeling bad about not being someone else's idea of a "real" fan. If real fans can't have pikachu in a little hat, then that is not the life i wanna lead!
LITTLE GODDAMN HAT, MY GUY
#rambleramble#just a long vent ive had pent up since gen 4 lol#tho man people were still jerks in the competitive scene even back when it was just local link cables#just that there wasnt a massive internet community thats only really available to competitive people and excludes anyone else
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October 12th, 2017 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on October 12th, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PDT. The chat focused on Voidchild by David Lindholm.
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RebelVampire
Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing Voidchild by David Lindholm~! (https://tapas.io/series/voidchild/) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~!
With that said, let us begin with this first question~!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
for me im going to say chapter 2. the entirety of chapter 2. which isnt one scene but many of course. but all my fave scenes are in there.
Superjustin of Time and Space
HELLO
*waves
RebelVampire
hello~!
Superjustin of Time and Space
I made sure I made it~
snuffysam
Hmm... for me, it would be the chapter 1 finale. The scene where Mary talks down a goddess is legendary, particularly on re-readings once you know her backstory.
MathTans the Pun Prince
I have split feelings about favourite scene. My comedy enjoyment is going with the "crossbows?" element early on, when it was like, exploding crossbow bolts and ohhh. In terms of anticipation, is was when Imad was going off on Mary to shake her out of her despair and I was worried what would happen. But for overall pathos, killing one's parent accidentally, kinda can't beat that.
Hiyo SJB!
Superjustin of Time and Space
Hey Math~
MathTans the Pun Prince
SnuffyS - That's a real good point, the backstory puts that conversation into a new light. Nice.
RebelVampire
@snuffysam yeah I really enjoy that scene. i like that the solution is non-conventional in comparison to earlier stuff. in the sense that its not a dramatic fight that solves the problem. its words. i think my fave line in the entire scene is really when mary starts by acknowledging she doesnt get how spirits think. i think that really sets the tone for who has the upper hand here. @math those are def all good scenes. i did like the exection of the crossbows line.
snuffysam
Yeah, in terms of the heaviest scene in the comic, Mary killing her dad is definitely up there. I agree with what @RebelVampire said- the entirety of chapter 2 is filled with scenes like that.
MathTans the Pun Prince
I admit I'm waffling a little on the way it was presented, effectively as nightmares/memories and the like. I feel like maybe it would have had more impact on the present day events if she'd told someone specifically, or had been writing it down for someone to find later.
Like, not bad by any means, and it was impactful going through it, but now that we're back in the present... I kind of want it to go for more than characterization. Granted, the EvilGuy (name escapes me) does seem to know things too.
Superjustin of Time and Space
Lol
RebelVampire
i can kind of see that perspective. for me if i had to be critical the issue is less its a flashback, more that its a long flashback. so now that were in the present im like "oh yeah this is a time and place were in"
MathTans the Pun Prince
Maybe that's part of it. I wanted more of a connection to the characters we're seeing in the present. I do think the callback to the present at the start of Chap 2, Part 4 was a good move.
It's tricky when Mary's whole thing is she wants to move on.
snuffysam
Yeah, I really liked the bit that came back to the present in chapter 2- again especially in retrospect. Like, this random alley man keeps following her around, but then he turns out to be a villain in chapter 3.
RebelVampire
im glad he came back cause the minute i saw the random alley man i was like "this dude is suspicious af hes gonna have a role right O_O"
snuffysam
I figured at the very least he'd be a recurring gag character- but the fact that he (seemingly) has such a major role in the story is even better.
MathTans the Pun Prince
Yeah... actually, seems like many others who are more shady know more than Mary and ... I am SO bad with names. Detective guy.
RebelVampire
lol
snuffysam
Bekker.
RebelVampire
detective guy is abraham bekker
alley guy is amir
MathTans the Pun Prince
Thanks. -.-
Anyway, we're mostly coming at it from their perspective.
Meaning we needed the backstory to be able to do that appropriately.
snuffysam
Here's a question- do you think we'll get Bekker's backstory in the future? Do you want to?
RebelVampire
i think we'll get it cause i don't think hes going anywhere. like i feel its inevitable mary will become his partner. not discounting a wrench in that plan. i just feel its the most likely scenario considering abraham is still a relevant character in chapter 3. but yes i do want his backstory
MathTans the Pun Prince
Hah. I don't think we'll get it to the same extent. But at the same time, there's parts of it I don't really want to know... when he started in with the whole "ex-gf" (or was it wife?) thing near the introduction, I kind of winced. Felt like hardly the time or the place. I don't know that I really need to know that stuff either. But how the guy can function when he's perpetually late and where he got his attitude from, that I'd wonder about.
RebelVampire
yeah i concur i dont care about his dating history. i just wanna know how he started working for the PIU
TheVoidchildProject
Hi all, I'm really tired and should only stay here for a min or so since I have work in the morning. So excited to see this discussion though!
MathTans the Pun Prince
Hi creator! Kudos to you for appearing in the middle of your night.
While I have the chance, I want to say, awesome on you for keeping the early art. Speaking as someone else who's mostly a writer and is somehow attempting a comic, that was great.
RebelVampire
Hey David~! Don't stay up too long for sure.
TheVoidchildProject
I can say, I think without spoiling much, that Mary's backstory is the only one that will be presented as it was. Other characters if/when their past is presented I'd like to do in different ways.
snuffysam
Yup, that makes sense.
TheVoidchildProject
And thank you so much @MathTans the Pun Prince ! It was a difficult decision but I'm also glad I did it that way!
MathTans the Pun Prince
Time travel through dimensional portals?
TheVoidchildProject
Lol, I hadn't thought of that... UNTIL NOW!
MathTans the Pun Prince
Those portals do seem dangerous. Maybe that train station employee is fighting dinosaurs even now.
TheVoidchildProject
I was actually a bit worried when I approached chapter 2, knowing that Mary's backstory was coming and that it was going to (by the end of it) equal all of ch 1 in length. In its first draft it was only three parts. But I opted to make it four since it was so condensed!
Hah, I will also say that I'm not trying to be clever with the portal thing at the beginning of ch 3. I wanted to imply that it relates to Amir somehow. Hence why the next scene jumped to him and Mary with the "...than what came out." Comment. ^_^
snuffysam
And hence the similar windy effects when the train station was attacked...
MathTans the Pun Prince
Yeah, was pretty sure Amir used it for transport.
(Amir got tired of fighting dinosaurs.)
RebelVampire
QUESTION 2. There is no question that the biggest mystery in Voidchild is Mary, the so-called Voidchild herself. The comic also hints at how potentially destructive her powers are. What do you think the Voidchild is? Why are people so readily willing to kill Mary because of it? What is Mary’s purpose for existing, and who exactly are Mary’s biological parents? Lastly, do you think being the Voidchild will eventually make Mary and Abraham enemies?
TheVoidchildProject
Also very pleased that ppl appreciated how Mary talked down Maman Ama in ch 1. Always wanted there to be more to her than powerful magics. ^_^
@snuffysam yes, that too! ^_^
MathTans the Pun Prince
Yeah, that was well done. Nice not to play to expectations too much.
TheVoidchildProject
That's a very interesting question @RebelVampire
MathTans the Pun Prince
Well, here's an off the wall theory. Void is sometimes seen as the "missing" element, as in Fire, Earth, Air, Water and Void. If she's the void child, maybe Amir is Fire, and there's more of them out there. (And if they come together, everything explodes.)
TheVoidchildProject
"Questions (gah)
snuffysam
@MathTans the Pun Prince If so, then Amir's not exactly helping.
MathTans the Pun Prince
No, Amir isn't. But he's gotta build up an army to take on the... weird fire being things. Possibly they're his uncles. Okay, now I've moved into crack theories.
TheVoidchildProject
Lol, I will avoid saying too much on this subject. But, the fundamentals of it will be explained within chapter 3.
snuffysam
My theory is that the Voidchild is called that because she has no real biological parents. She existed in some void dimension, and was summoned into this world by the people in the photo.
MathTans the Pun Prince
Oooh, a summoning, I like it. I thought it was clever that the shadows made sure we couldn't see the faces of her 'parents' clearly.
It makes the new question, why did they dispose of the baby that they summoned.
RebelVampire
that is my running theory as well. that she doesnt really have bio parents. the picture is a red herring. or it could be they are her bio parents but the summoning happened anyway. like they used their own child as a vessel
MathTans the Pun Prince
Nu-cle-ar wessel. (Sorry)
TheVoidchildProject
High, must avoid... saying too much... might accidentally... confirm or deny...
snuffysam
Well, if the people who summoned her did so in part of some kind of world-domination scheme... perhaps they abandoned her that far away to have some sort of "testing ground".
MathTans the Pun Prince
I'm not sure if I buy the red herring thing. Seems like a lot of trouble to put a baby out in the middle of nowhere. (Unless they were spying and knew a possible father was coming, but then why be so hands-off after that.)
snuffysam
But then, of course, why leave her with a photo...?
RebelVampire
@TheVoidchildProject just reply with and no one will know XD
MathTans the Pun Prince
So that when she got sucked back into the hell dimension, she'd have a keepsake?
RebelVampire
that is a good point. they went to a lot of trouble to leave the picture. assuming they were the ones who left her in the middle of nowhere
TheVoidchildProject
Lol, I'm not falling for that again!
MathTans the Pun Prince
Here's something tangentially related. Mary was unable to access her powers when she went kind of emotionally dead. It was only when she felt again that she regained them. So it seems to be tied to emotions. Maybe Mary was abandoned in the hope she'd gain emotions, in order to access the powers, which the original parents didn't feel capable of doing.
TheVoidchildProject
@RebelVampire (trying to take advantage of my lack of cognitive ability eh ?
snuffysam
@MathTans the Pun Prince That could be it, yeah!
Here's another related theory- one of the two people in that picture is a younger Movian.
MathTans the Pun Prince
Hmmm. I feel like he'd have kept better tabs. But maybe you're right.
RebelVampire
mostly i just wish i had right now to eat
thatd be trippy if it was younger movian
does movian just go around having rando cults
seeing what works
MathTans the Pun Prince
Mary would prefer vegetable soup to the pizza.
snuffysam
It would make sense for him not to know where she was if he was either trying to get rid of Mary, or if someone else took her from him.
MathTans the Pun Prince
Hmm! I like that, the abduction angle seems big.
Nice backstory on Diary-Guy, incidentally.
TheVoidchildProject
I can confirm that it's not a young Movian though. His first encounter with Mary was in chapter 1. He has his own motivation, which I've only hinted to in the reader questions actually.
MathTans the Pun Prince
He's doing his own version of Braveheart.
TheVoidchildProject
And thanks @MathTans the Pun Prince ! I assume you mean Roy maybe?
Lol, like a brace heart sitting in the dark with weird glory owl-like spectacle glasses?
MathTans the Pun Prince
Yes, Roy. (Don't feel slighted, I get everyone's names wrong in all the comics. It's a wonder that I teach for a living.)
TheVoidchildProject
(His design was actually based a little around an owl)
MathTans the Pun Prince
He does have the knack for making glasses look malicious.
snuffysam
Hey, David, here's a suggestion, if you have the time- Cast Page. The amount of characters is getting kind of big, and it's difficult to remember all their names.
RebelVampire
@snuffysam there is a cast page
TheVoidchildProject
Lol, don't worry about it. I can't expect people to remember every details of a long form comic that updates twice a week. ^_^
snuffysam
There is? Which mirror?
RebelVampire
http://www.TheVoidchildProject.com/about/cast/
snuffysam
Huh, how 'bout that.
RebelVampire
granted amir isnt on it
nor other side
characters
i can english
TheVoidchildProject
Yes, there is a cast page but it's not been updated yet. I think @snuffysam suggestion is good and there will be other characters appearing later as well.
MathTans the Pun Prince
Pity about Catherine. Saved only to die again. Gotta admit, I wonder if the Mother Goddess was in on it. (Oh, you want to return the kid to it's mother? Fine. Oh look, no mother no more, I get the kid back.)
RebelVampire
i kind of liked that catherine got murdered. looked like a happy ending, all pieces in place. but whoops no, no happy ending for anyone
TheVoidchildProject
I gotta sleep now, but I wanted to drop a lady tidbit. A major theme, alongside the mystery and magic and all that, that is core to Voidchild and relevant to everything you're talking about is interdependency. It's something that relates to a lot of things you've been discussing so far. I've mentioned here and there that it might probably be what I describe as THE central theme of the comic. Whether that helps or makes speculation harder...
MathTans the Pun Prince
Everything is connected. Abe is Dirk Gently.
TheVoidchildProject
The question of Catherine's killing will also be revealed in good time.
Hah! He for sure isnt! But he has a very important role to play. Albeit one that's difficult to summarze in just a sentence.
MathTans the Pun Prince
Glad the reference was caught at least. Do enjoy sleep, hope work tomorrow goes well.
TheVoidchildProject
Anyways, beddy bye time for me. Im so thrilled about this discussion! Thanks so much for taking the time!
MathTans the Pun Prince
Abe is actually Fox Mulder then.
RebelVampire
thanks for coming david~!
snuffysam
Goodnight, David!
TheVoidchildProject
Night!
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. In recent chapters the comic has introduced Amir, a strange person who possesses the same powers as Mary. Is Amir another Voidchild of some sort or is something else going on? Why is Amir interested in Mary? Is it just because of their similarities or does he have a specific purpose? Additionally, what other purpose could Amir have for being in Victoria?
snuffysam
Well, he did say Mary was the one who was going to end everything. So that would imply she's something he isn't?
MathTans the Pun Prince
I still kind of cling to my Other-Kind-Of-Child theory. But maybe there is a whole society through the portal of people like him, who only gain fantastical powers when on the other (this) side. Since Mary's been here for soooo long, she also has the power to... um, void. Not sure where I'm going with this now.
Superjustin of Time and Space
Sorry I'm kinda stuck in this video chat in another server
MathTans the Pun Prince
Maybe Amir came for the pizza.
RebelVampire
thats a good reason to come
it could be that amir and mary and others are needed together to end the world. like even if mary lets go and starts world ending, the planet is pretty big. it might take multiple ppl to release the true power of the void
MathTans the Pun Prince
There's also the matter of Jack. I feel like the scary pet thing figures into the mythology somehow.
RebelVampire
i could go super into crack territory and suggest maybe there are other dimensions and amir is the voidchild of his dimension and he rolled in to help mary end her dimension
MathTans the Pun Prince
Aw yeah, that's a cool theory.
snuffysam
That isn't a crack theory, ha ha. It makes sense given the circumstances.
Do we know for sure Amir doesn't live in Victoria? Maybe he lived in a cave under the train station the entire time, and just tunneled up.
MathTans the Pun Prince
Meanwhile the FireMask nation want to prevent Mary from doing it, because they've bought interdimensional shares in Earth Stock. And Amir is all, no, I bet against you guys, gotta destroy the place.
RebelVampire
the FireMask Nation XD excuse me while i laugh and think of all the jokes
MathTans the Pun Prince
Amir must have some knowledge of Victoria, it's true. He didn't look befuddled by things around him.
My inability to deal with names strikes again.
RebelVampire
i dont think the ppl even had a name tbh
so firemask nation works for me
MathTans the Pun Prince
I wonder if there's a prophecy. Isn't there usually a prophecy?
RebelVampire
is it possible amir is the spirit of the void? cause i remember the book movian was reading was titled "the spirit of the void and the child of the void"
so it suggests theyre seperate entities
snuffysam
Everyone who knows anything seems to be sure Mary will destroy the world. I guess that's a prophecy?
MathTans the Pun Prince
Good eye. Maybe it's a yin and yang thing.
snuffysam
I wonder if there
's anything to the fact that Mary and Amir are similar names as well
MathTans the Pun Prince
Hmmmm.
snuffysam
Same four sounds in a different order. Will we see Rima and Imar next?
MathTans the Pun Prince
We also had "snowflake" against the "firemask nation". Symbolism?
RebelVampire
wait wasnt her uncle's name Imad?
secret void uncle
MathTans the Pun Prince
Yeah, Imad.
snuffysam
Well, he was always interested in Mary's powers.
Maybe Amir got the powers later in life, while Mary had them from birth?
MathTans the Pun Prince
He didn't seem keen on her using them though.
Amir just seems to have embraced the darkness. Mary has lighter eyes.
Could be they fear that Mary will destroy the DARKNESS. To save the humans. Or something.
Gotta get humanity prejudiced against their saviour.
snuffysam
Mary's eyes go black when she goes all-out though. I think there's a lower level of magic that Amir just skips over.
MathTans the Pun Prince
Maybe. Or maybe she has some inherent "valve" that she can use to tap into the evil without letting it consume her.
snuffysam
Though it's interesting that Amir can go to normal eyes, while Mary is stuck with glowing blue...
MathTans the Pun Prince
That is interesting, yes.
Training?
(Mary just needs some good contact lenses. Maybe the cat-eye ones.)
snuffysam
Or perhaps a difference between them- Mary was created from the void, Amir just uses it or something.
RebelVampire
yeah the eye thing really interests me. cause it makes me wonder how different amir's powers are. like maybe they arent exactly the same. maybe other ppl can tap into the power of the void and mary is just the chosen one. what if amir is from the secret voidchild cult that is like "yaay world ending"
and amir is the proxy sent to greet her
snuffysam
Exactly, something like that
Though in a world with real mystical creatures, it seems odd a cult would be formed around one they aren't sure exists.
MathTans the Pun Prince
Ooooh, these are nice theories.
Yeah, the general reaction to Jack wasn't mine (namely, OMG, WTF) and more, okay, guy has a skull pet, sure.
So, duelling cultists.
(biab)
RebelVampire
oh thats a good point. that book did mention even other legendary creatures think mary is a legend.
i never questioned jack that much cause victoria was described as a supernatural hotbed
snuffysam
It's the tagline of the entire comic, even.
RebelVampire
was just like "yup mythical creature, supernatural hotbed, makes sense"
snuffysam
"voidchild a creature of myth and legend, even to other creatures of myth and legend."
RebelVampire
so if mary destroys the world, what does that mean for spirits like maman ama
like are they destroyed too
do they exist somewhere else so theyre just gonna shrug and say "welp i never liked humans anyway"
snuffysam
Maman Ama specifically? Yeah, probably. Can't speak for any other spirits though.
RebelVampire
i picked maman ama just cause thats the only identified spirit that for sure basically lives in another dimension/world/plane of some sort
snuffysam
No yeah, I'm saying the other spirits might like humans more.
RebelVampire
oh yeah im sure theres tons of spirits with varying opinions. theres at least gotta be one not indifferent to humans.
i wonder if theres a significance to the fact mary's eyes glow blue as opposed to a different color
snuffysam
I think it's mainly a design choice. Blue stands out against the black & white that the comic sports- and for a character we're supposed to sympathize with, red would be a bad call.
MathTans the Pun Prince
Back. Yeah, might be nice to see more cases that the PIU get involved with. The other "spirit" style thing we've seen was the mystical healing.
And plaid is right out.
RebelVampire
for a black & white comic most colors stand out tho. i mean it could be a design choice cause that shade of blue in particular generally gets associated with the supernatural.
i just wonder if theres a deeper meaning. that the blue is signifying life or something and the black is signifying not life
snuffysam
Also true. In general, sky-blue is seen as a friendly color.
Maybe.
RebelVampire
but yeah i do hope we get to see more of the PIU
and their fun cases
MathTans the Pun Prince
bites tongue to keep from making an "air"head comment
RebelVampire
you can do it math O_O just dont bite the tongue off
MathTans the Pun Prince
Tree bark is worse than my bite.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 4. With the end of the first chapter, the comic leaves a lot of unanswered questions regarding Catherine’s murder and Movian. Why do you think Catherine was murdered and who did it? Additionally, do you think Movian is being truthful when he implies he had nothing to do with it? On a different note, what is Movian’s end goal with his cult? Is he serving some higher purpose, trying to destroy the world, or something else?
snuffysam
I'm thinking Movian definitely didn't do it just based off his reaction- if he's responsible, it's unintentional.
RebelVampire
yeah thats what i think too. i feel it was pretty clear but theres always room for doubt of course
ive been wondering, what if amir killed catherine
MathTans the Pun Prince
Movian's very much in your face or mysteriously absent. Really not his style. I still feel like his cult's involved though, what with the kid now being an orphan.
snuffysam
We haven't seen anything that can work at a distance/unseen out of Amir's abilities (or Mary's for that matter), but maybe?
MathTans the Pun Prince
What's Amir's motive though? I also feel like he only arrived the previous day through that portal (though it's possible he could have been around and made it back to communicate or something).
snuffysam
It really seems like "Movian's cult is doing some bad stuff" and "Mary is the Voidchild" are two different storylines at the moment. Catherine's death has SOMETHING to do with the overarching plot, I imagine, but I'm not sure it connects that closely yet...
MathTans the Pun Prince
Be funny if it was a case of mistaken identity. "I am going to kill the Supernatural Mother! ... Crud, that is not who I expected to be with the baby."
RebelVampire
lol that would be a very drastic mistake XD
MathTans the Pun Prince
The whole "helping people" thing has not gone well for Mary, traditionally.
RebelVampire
well i think we can at least safely conclude something supernatural killed catherine. cause if you look at the death scene it almost seems like theres a hint of a portal appearing in one panel
snuffysam
Maybe there's someone who's trying to make Mary feel as bad as possible? Either to make her stronger, or to weaken her?
MathTans the Pun Prince
The power is tied to emotions, it would seem.
snuffysam
Yeah, so the person responsible (if they're targeting Mary) is either trying to make her frustrated or depressed.
RebelVampire
idk if the power is tied to emotions so much as its tied to willpower. it seems the more mary wills herself to live, the stronger her powers are
which may be the ironic bane of her existence
MathTans the Pun Prince
Hmmmm.
It makes for a nice callback to the words of her father.
RebelVampire
an ironic callback cause you could argue the ultimate solution to prevent her from ending the world is for her to let herself die
but this is obviously speculation
MathTans the Pun Prince
Amir is a male version of her from another dimension. She only has to kill Amir.
RebelVampire
it could be someone is just going around and murdering anybody who mary interacts with. because theyve been touched by the void or something like that
snuffysam
What if Mary dying IS how the world ends? Like, the void isn't meant to be bound to a human form, because they're too fragile?
MathTans the Pun Prince
Inappropriate touching.
RebelVampire
that would be an ironic twist as well. if her dying is how the world ends. cause it means the people trying to kill her arent saving the world, just hastening its destruction
MathTans the Pun Prince
Maybe they're saving their world.
We don't really know the supernatural rules. Maybe there's a conflict.
snuffysam
For the people who have tried to kill her- have they ever said the world ending is a bad thing?
MathTans the Pun Prince
It's a tax dodge.
Valid theory though, really. (Sorry, I get silly late in the evening and can't always filter.)
snuffysam
Like, if you told me Amir wanted to end existence... I wouldn't be too surprised. He kind of gives off that vibe.
RebelVampire
i feel like the firemask nation ppl implied it tho
snuffysam
Hmm I think you're right there...
MathTans the Pun Prince
I wonder. Maybe OwlMan wants freedom from his mortal body. And maybe VoidChild is the embodiment of the void, spirtuality given form. OwlMan wants to study that, to learn how he can transcend his body.... and he's creating cults for that purpose. The rest of them don't want him to be able to do that, hence are trying to take Mary out.
RebelVampire
https://tapas.io/episode/616941
that page specifically
snuffysam
Ah yes, there you go.
RebelVampire
amir id definitely think would all be for world destruction tho XD
snuffysam
It's certainly possible Movian is doing the stuff he does for personal gain. Immortality, power, etc.
MathTans the Pun Prince
If Mary's the means to an end, she must go.
RebelVampire
yeah i think movian is doing some sort of power grab thing here
hes looking for something at least
that i feel confident in saying
considering his business is acquiring "rare exotic goods"
that sounds like code for "evidence against me and supernatural artifacts"
MathTans the Pun Prince
It's probably not tropical fruit.
snuffysam
I also feel like if he was serving some higher entity, he wouldn't be so confident all the time. Being under someone else's heel doesn't seem his style...
MathTans the Pun Prince
Maybe he's pulling the strings of some higher entity. (Or they think they're pull each others' strings.)
RebelVampire
movian is the higher entity. thats the twist he doesnt tell the cults
MathTans the Pun Prince
Exactly. He can maybe make his eyes go void too.
snuffysam
I feel like it would be cool if Movian is just a regular human who tells the cult that he serves a higher power. Maybe he's trying to gain supernatural abilities for himself?
So, like, he's lying to all his followers
RebelVampire
yeah like i said, i feel like movian is just a greedy human who wants more power. and that there is no higher power. hes just using who and what he can
MathTans the Pun Prince
He's gotta have something to him though. He tamed Jack somehow.
Or is he just that personable?
snuffysam
Found a magic whip that tames demon creatures?
RebelVampire
yeah i mean maybe he found some monster taming artifact
during his acquisitions
MathTans the Pun Prince
I suppose artifacts could be a thing, good point.
Maybe it used to be his son or something.
RebelVampire
maybe movian doesnt want to end the world but take it over. be like "look i have the voidchild that can end all existence now make me king of england"
snuffysam
That could absolutely be it.
MathTans the Pun Prince
He doesn't seem like he wants that much responsibility though.
Like, his end game is more, now I don't have to worry about anything versus actually running england.
RebelVampire
that is true. its really hard to guess his motives tbh
i wonder if movian would be interested in amir
snuffysam
Nelson Movian Just Wants A Quiet Life...
MathTans the Pun Prince
Much like Abe?
(It's all gotta cycle around, y'see.)
snuffysam
Yup exactly
MathTans the Pun Prince
Final thought, neat transition manner of having panels get thinner and thinner.
Just something random that I noticed that stuck.
RebelVampire
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all the questions b/c why not :)
you’re my new best friend.
this thing is 50 questions long so it’s under the cut 👍
1. do you have any recurring dreams? what are they?
lately i’ve had a recurring dream of beating the shit out of my cousin.. so there’s that
2. what is your favourite kind of fruit?
hmm.. either clementines, pears, or peaches
3. sweet or savoury?
savory
4. what is your smallest/pettiest fear?
ants. i freak the fuck out if there are ants around me.
5. what is your least favourite vegetable?
probably sweet potatoes. that’s like the only vegetable i can think of that i dislike. i hate sweet potatoes.
6. what is your favourite art movement?
either surrealism or pop art
7. do you drink milk?
no i really should.
8. what was the last line of the last book you read?
…i can’t remember the last book i finished… fuck i miss having time to read.
9. do you like bitter food?
i can’t really think of any but probably not. i’m too bitter to eat bitter foods too.
10. what is the most significant event in your life so far?
i just did some deep ass thinking and like.. it had to have been my dad leaving. like i don’t even remember that but my life would be 100% different if he hadn’t so i have to say that.
11. what is one thing ( a book, movie, etc ) that has greatly affected you?
i’m gonna nerd out…
the wizard of oz bc that’s been my favorite movie since i was 2 years old and if happy little bluebirds fly beyond the rainbow why oh can’t i?
harry potter bc oh mY GOD. that’s like a whole world that is so fucking special and welcoming and magical and do you know how much a fucked up little kid needs magic bc it’s a lot man.
also… supergirl. bc alex danvers is so fucking special to me and her personality, her family values/dynamics, her coming out story are all so relevant and important to me and i cry about it a lot okay??
12. what is your favourite breed of dog or cat?
PITBULLS. i mean all dogs i love every single one of them but pitbulls are the best. and cats… idk i guess fat ones 😂
13. list your top 5 favourite turtle names.
like names that i would choose for a turtle? i love this question.
bubba, roscoe, franklin, squirtle, crush
14. what job would you have if you could have it without going through all of the school or experience that is required?
either a veterinarian or a children’s psychologist
15. are there any names that you dislike so much that you would dislike the person with the name? what are those names?
my dislike of names always comes from disliking a person with that name. and then it ruins the chances of me liking someone else with the same name. for instance: jason
16. what is your favourite letter?
L, J, or G because i like writing them in cursive
17. are there any instruments you wished you played?
i really wish i could play the drums and piano
18. list your best friends.
ellie, nicole, sam, jake, angie, my mom, my grandma
19. would you rather be a skeleton or a ghost?
ghost. definitely.
20. do you prefer fish or lizards/snakes? (as pets)
i’ve never had a lizard or snake so i guess fish.
21. art or music?
music is art??
but if you mean music or visual art, i’d say music.
22. what is your favourite type of flower?
gardenias. i’m trash.
23. soup or salad?
salad.
24. are you good at keeping plants alive?
i haven’t attempted this since i was like 6.
25. do animals tend to like you?
yes which is good bc i love them.
26. what is the worst book you’ve ever read?
i can’t really say. the only one that i never finished was Go Ask Alice.
27. do you collect anything?
not anymore.
28. how many pillows do you sleep with?
as many as i can possibly fit on my bed.
29. whats the latest you’ve ever woken up?
well i woke up at 2pm today. let’s just say that that isn’t my record.
30. how many pictures are on your walls?
sO MANY I CAN’T EVEN TELL YOU. i fucking love pictures.
31. what age did you stop keeping stuffed animals on your bed?
i still have stuffed animals on my bed lmao.
32. what is your favourite candy?
probably gummy bears or 100 gram bars.
33. what is your favourite baked good?
the iced lemon cookies my aunt made for christmas this year. new discovery.
34. do you have a camera? if so, what kind?
yes i have a polaroid camera.
i also have a nicer one but i haven’t used it in a long time. i don’t know the exact model, it’s a fujifilm.
35. do you wear jewelry?
yep. every day i wear my cross, the prayer bracelet sam got me, my rainbow ring, and my class ring. i usually have another 2 bracelets and another ring too.
36. sunrise or sunset?
idek. both man.
37. do you like to listen to music with headphones or no headphones?
either way. i blast it in my room and car. headphones in public.
38. what was your favourite show as a child?
when i was like 6 it was boy meets world…. also murder she wrote.
39. describe your favourite spot in your house.
probably my bed lmao.
40. do you like to be warm or cold?
i’d rather be cold than hot but i’d always prefer warm.
41. the best joke you have.
i’m made of sarcasm, not planned jokes.
42. whats the weirdest thing that you’ve seen happen in a public place?
i’ve seen furries walking around campus before. scary shit.
43. CD or digital?
digital is more convenient but i still buy CDs when i can. i’m a tactile person.
44. who do you miss right now?
poppop. jocelyn. my friends from school. the usual suspects.
45. if you could combine two places in the world, which two places would you choose?
probably somewhere green and scenic in the mountains with either my hometown or NYC
46. describe the worst substitute teacher you’ve ever had.
one time i had a sub in my german class who joined in with some kids and made fun of our teacher and the weight of student who was absent that day. he also let us watch The Interview on youtube on fire.
there’s also mr. finestien who i simultaneously love and hate. he’s adorable and nerdy and means well but if he subs a math class he straight up continues the lesson we’re on and it was like there wasn’t even a sub.
47. do you believe horoscopes?
i think they’re fun and maybe nice bc they can tell you what you wanna hear/give a basis for a little hope. but no i don’t particularly believe in them.
48. are you spiritual?
i’m more spiritual than i am religious.
49. describe your pets ( or family if you dont have pets )
my uncle has a dog named Chaos who lives in the back of my house. he’s a doberman rottweiler mix but he’s tiny as heck, very skittish, and pees when he’s excited.
then there’s Bear. he was my other uncle’s dog but now he’s my grandma and mom’s dog. he’s huge and fluffy. he means well but he’s kind of aggressive and bites/growls at/snaps at people sometimes. he’s always sorry after.
and then there’s Jazzy. she’s my dog and from the same litter as Bear. they’re german shepherd, siberian husky, chow chow mixes. she’s bigger than bear and looks nothing like him. she’s got bright blue eyes that i love a lot. she acts big and tough, fights with Bear a lot and is mean to Chaos. but when she’s out of the house, she’s a little bitch. she’s literally run from a cocker spaniel before. she’s just like me bc she has trust issues, is lazy, likes to be alone, is very stubborn, and has a bum hip. she also eats everything in sight and is sometimes food aggressive. she only really listens to me.
50. are you good at getting over mistakes?
NOPE. i’m bad at admitting that i was wrong in the first place so getting over it is a time. i learn from them though bc i hate being wrong so much i wanna make sure i don’t fuck up again.
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i like to think if codename seren had a sequel, like bw2, thered be a series of changes. which i wanna explore because setting these up would improve the original, even if the sequel never existed, if that makes sense.
though i suppose the issue is, where would you start from? the east? would be kinda neat. then, having Bronwyn be a grass gym makes sense - she would be a natural first gym for the player. but im gonna keep referring to them in the order of the ‘original’, so bronwyn is 8.
gym 1 is no longer run by the Lady, and is instead run by one of her former students (one of the orphans specifically, since she DOES teach other kids). its probably still normal type.
gym 3, which is Will, has likely been completely removed and relocated. im thinking out east. as such, naturally, Will is not present as its gym leader - it would be a local. as for WHERE east, i think it depends how many towns are added - the theory is that after the org falls, the barriers to truly improving the east’s standards of living are gone and a bunch of towns pop up. so, one of those. thatd be fun.
gym 5, the original gym leader has been removed and is nowhere to be seen (you can hear of him though, mostly from locals talking about how much better the new guy is). the new guy is someone from that northwestern town with the mayor (that 5 sends you to before you can fight him), and probably has a different type. not sure what, exactly. yknow what would be fun? dragon. just cause i dont have one, anywhere. ice could be nice, if one of the e4 isnt ice. or ground. idk.
gym 6, which is Sonya, is now way better. for a start, she has an actual gym building (the original gym building was made into like, housing? like a shelter. she ran her gym out of the old gym leaders house, next door). and the town itself is way better, having started to properly rebuild. shes still very much her town first, but now that shes set up safeguards she can devote more time to her gym. the way this manifests is that you can actually challenge her straight out rather than having to do something for her, lmao.
gym 7 is also way better. 7 is still there and running it, but the difference is that he is properly supported. the town is starting to thrive a little more, now that 7 has more resources to use to help them. yay!
and then gym 8 is bronwyn and the town is this case is also positively booming. its now a City, and is the proper eastern hub, rather than just the ‘defacto’. not as big as melbourne, of course, but its thriving on increased accessibility. this also manifests as there being an easier route through the mountains, connecting east and west far easier. im thinking trains. whose down for trains? i am. the old routes are still there or you can just get the train. and you cant take the old routes at the start because you dont have rock smash and strength n shit. there’d be goodies in those routes for you when you come back for them.
as for elite 4, Rhia is firmly entrenched as a member, and maybe she’s moved up a spot or two, but she is NOT the champion. not because she couldnt be, but because she devotes her spare time to running the Urica police. she’s also possibly a member of the international police :3c nice.
there would also be SOME variables. think how if you used that uh... dream radar? thing from bw2 that synced your stuff from bw1 (mostly your name but on a bigger scale), some stuff would be different. like, for instance, if [Sam] was org, theyyy could be found helping people out east. if they were team, you could find them in their home town, having been released a little while ago and having not quite progressed since then. you can walk into their room and chat to them. if they were neither, its probably the same, except with different dialogue and maybe an item, idk. though i also like the idea of Sam taking that Team idea to the extreme and being a part of whatever villain rears its head.
uh, Zeke, id have to figure out his fucking routes to tell you, but my guess is he’s either travelling all around, acting sorta like Elliot, or he’s doing something specific. idk.
Elliot would be retired and living at his home back in the old hometown. the main difference would be minor dialogue changes.
i suppose this all hinges on how far in the future it is. like, if its a ways, there’s the possibility that other e4 members may have retired. the Champion is still there, because shes probably closer to Cynthia than Diantha in terms of age, so she can keep trucking. some of the others mightve lft, but that depends on WHO they are. and in that instance, who would replace them? OOH, maybe thats where Will comes in! Will could upgrade, sorta like how Koga did from kanto to johto. so after Rhia has settled, another elite 4 announces their intention to retire, and the Champio starts asking around. a lot of the current gym leaders are very mcuh supporting their localities, but Will isn’t as phased. he offers to become e4, and he tries to find a successor. he doesnt, theres a LONG discussion, and eventually his gym is relocated from ‘Geelong’ to the east, to bolster its growth. where his gym used to be is probably replaced with some sort of, lets say art gallery. i know Will is a cartographer (of course ID know that, hes my character!) but something LIKE that. something to do with the study of the region and the world. culture, i guess. so you could probably still meet him, in the building where his gym used to be. he’d meet you at the front and would offer to give you a tour. there’d probably be a story segment here anyway and he’d be really fucking peeved about it. again???? AGAIN???? fuck. he’d be livid. my guess is this time the evil team is motivated by the information he has, especially regarding the legendaries that supposedly inhabit the fringes of the region. nice.
oh yea, fucking variables! the tourists! the tourists either appear or they dont. youd basically just be able to meet them in the city, all grown up and adults. they’d chat to you about how lovely this region is, have a bit of a laugh, ask if you’ve seen [your player from the first game], and when you say no (because your player from the last game isnt present) they’d be sorta sad, give you an item for your troubles, and then thats it. thats all they have. and thats only if you befriended them. if you pissed them off, they would not be present. nice going, jackass.
idk. itd be fun. moving wills gym probably makes the pacing a /little/ smoother but thats not really possible in the original region layout. but with boosted east, you can shove it in. nice. and Will being e4 is nice. idk who would leave though. maybe the foreigner? the idea was maybe the ice specialist was a foreigner, from a region with some actual fucking snow (also a sequel would include snow, like, some high mountains w snow and shit. maybe it’d take place in winter just to contrast. hmmmmMMMM. nice. i like that too) so maybe they’ve returned home. yea, probably. we’ll see who is who in the e4 anyway. i still wanna be there. i could be the elec gym leader. which means, from game 1 to game 2, the only change to ME is that my design would update to reflect that i’m different, lmao. that’d be fun. sorta like Elesa except with 0 narrative justification.
#story blogging#codename seren#none of this actually matters but its fun to think about the future beyond what takes place in codename seren specifically#the sequel would obviously not be codename seren but instead something else. something to do with some NEW characters#rhia would still have a part though she's completed her arc and is now a 'static' character sts. but she'd be there. yknow. as the Police
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also the final dungeon sucked and am i like the only one who hated the whole twist entirely? literally the only good bit was that mr never before foreshadowed trash hype killer villain god disguised himself as igor that was a good twist if it was anyone else, if it was a random npc like with p4′s deity final boss, then it would have had no redeeming qualities seriously it was SO THEMATICALLY BAD seriously shido is SUCH a climax boss and you have actual reasons to hate him and an actual grudge and it feels good to kick his ass! even if his boss design is stupid looking! yaldabaoth is just... nobody he’s an abstract representation of the theme of the whole plot, which already got answered it was SO DUMB to just have out of nowhere everyone learns the same lesson again in a giant literal metaphor way dude we ALREADY answered the questions about ‘whether humanity prefers to be obedient and enslaved rather than make their own choices’ and it was so artificial that public opinion of the phantom thieves suddenly tanks to 0 after they save the day?? if everyone forgot about us cos of evil godman brainwashing then HOW IS THIS A LESSON THATS BEING LEARNED. They just had to love us EVEN MORE so they were able to break the rbainwashing! like seriously it was just like.. you wanted some excuse to have everyone cheer on the phantom thieves as they watch the battle why not just have all that happen WITH SHIDO I mean he’s said to have stolen a bunch of metaverse research and know all about it it would make him much more of a threat if he did more with that say that HE is the one using mementos to brainwash the public have the phantom theieves fade from existance cos of that ‘kill myself to collapse my own palace’ plot shido did have it like.. it looks like eveyrone got out fast enough, theyre right at the entrance to the real world, but its just too late everyone fades away seeing the real world in the distance and screaming for anyone to grab their hand, but nobody sees them same effect same scene, just with shido and without three more hours of repetitive plot and a terrible TERRIBLE final dungeon! you could even still have the whole thing of the velvet room attendants fighting back against igor and saving you and then you go back and do the final fight just have it like.. igor was actually good and it was all a test, he faked betraying you. cos this is your final test- standing up to the ultimate authority figure. and he congratulates you for overcoming his challenge, and like.. reveal that the entire prison warden thing was a test for justine and caroline. they were the ones being rehibilitated. like, a test to gain free will that he always does for each new attendant. OR just have the same plot of evil igor imposter and stuff, but we dont need to have it happen after shido’s plot and lead to just goddamn repetition of p4 izanami withoutr any of the characetr development. Seriously he doesnt even get any moral ambiguity or anything! He’s just evil! He doesnt even really believe he’s doing what humanity wants! And him acting as your helper for fuckin 90 HOURS wasnt like a sign of character complexity or anyting, it as just a lie! Think of how much more interesting it could have been if yaldabaoth had a plot like ryoji, like he’s the human form of a god created to destroy everything but he ended up developing genuine affection for the protagonists and regretting the role he must inevitably play. That would have been repetitive but the plot we got is repetitive anyway!! and like seriously just SOMETHING SOMETHING somehow make him working with shido! remove the ENTIRE FINAL DUNGEON. It was padding in a game that was SO RUSHED aside from this damn moment! take that screentime and flesh out haru’s screentime more! DAMN YOOOOOOU have shido being a super mastermind who’s working with this evil god have shido be a wild card, even?? or have him as someone who’s like.. his pride and jealousy caused him to make a pact with this evil god in order to gain like.. fake wild card powers. He’s not able to actually use the metaverse on his own, he’s relied on manipulating his trash son, and now he’s without even that option he gets so desperate he WILL NOT ACCEPT his loss and goes all super saiyan by fusing with yaldabaoth. Yaldabaoth’s lack of personality doesnt really matter here, because he’s being a plot element instead of a final boss all on his lonesome. He could even be more sympathetic, cos all we see of him is as a mcguffin holy grail acting as the warden to everyone who GENUINELY wishes for imprisonment rather than free will. We dont get to hear his voice, we dont get to see him brainwashing people who clearly didnt make that choice, just to repeat an already-answered question about whether humanity as a whole would make that choice. Its just ‘hey here’s a mcguffin that exists because of the suicidal wishes of humans, and shido has stolen it and is using it to power up, holy shit’. And all we know about yaldabaoth is that he/they/it wants to grant wishes, and has no morality to determine which are good or bad. Not that its a fuckhead with dreams of granduer who wants to trick everybody into wishes they didnt ask for, and has NO PERSONALITY instead of being izanami WITHOUT PERSONALITY and just... GAHHH So yeah like BLINDSIDED, SLAP IN THE FACE, we thought we defeated shido, we were trying to grab the holy grail but WHOOPS HE’S BACK AND HE GRABBED IT. Like, after the whole climactic ‘shido is collapsing his own palace’ scene, when everyone leaves the velvet room they’re just at the site of that locked door, skipping the whole shitty dungeon. And then we see the holy grail right there and we get the exposition about it right there, and how it could reverse all of shido’s bullshit at the cost of ending the metaverse, blah. No need for a boring month of being unable to do anything but see cutscene after cutscene of BUT WE DEFEATED SHIDO BUT NOTHING IS HAPPENING. And then like.. SURPRISE! Shido isnt really dead! we accidentally led him right to this mcguffin that he can now use to become SuperFinalBossmanRematchMode. And this is where we get the exposition of how he didnt really die, it was a fake death pill. OR, if we wanna get EVEN MORE climactic goodness, maybe shido DID die from that, and now like.. his soul is trapped in the cognitive world forever as this horrifying shadow fusion thing and he’s still whining about how its your fault and taking no responsibility for his actions. So SUPER SMACKDOWN TO FINALLY END IT ONCE AND FOR ALL! And its still high stakes cos its all ‘holy shit it should be impossible for him to still exist’ and ‘holy shit he fuckin ate a god’. And like, if yaldabaoth got fuckin bitchslapped before he could even be a presence in the plot. ‘Yeah hey i was pretending to be igor- ARRGH HOLY SHIT SHIDO NO’ Mr actual climatic boss reclaims his throne, rather literally. Makes him more imposing than he is when he’s really just another palace ruler and you never even confront the real world shido or anything. I mean you kinda already beat his plans when you removed his only minion who could access the metaverse, you just do the rest of the palace to collapse his career too... and then like fuckin.. somehow have the same thing where the metaverse and real world start blending. But it’d even have a better explanation than just Yaldabaoth Can Do That, I Guess, And He Didn’t Do It Until Right Now Because Reasons. You could say its like a consequence of the metaverse revolting at shido’s running away from death. Say his willpower is so strong that he can fuckin fuck up reality with it! His ego is THAT big! And then hoodly boo, same thing with everyone cheering you on so you summon satan and save christmas. But the final boss could look less stupid than a fuckin faceless art studio model made of chrome that pulls a gun out of its butt. Or I mean it could look even more stupid, it could just ahve shido’s shit face pasted on top XD But shido’s already proven that he can give a climactic boss fight even while looking like a dumbass wearing too many ShakeWeights(tm)! OR ORRRRRR Instant fix that could LITERALLY make the whole thing better without changing any dialogue except one namebox. Just say Yaldabaoth is someone else. Just give him the name of a fan favourite villain from early persona *COUGH NYARTHALOTEP COUGH* It would fit better with the YEAHHHHH BOYYY factor of his big twist of being fake igor, it would keep that hype going instead of murdering it with a personalityless villain and eight floors of just stairs and light puzzles. EVEN BETTER if they actually did go far enough to make it a proper nyarly cameo and give him a design as cool as his old ones. Like seriously the thing of being twisted representations of everyone’s parents would work SO WELL here thematically! it could be a rgeat moment to FINALLY see and hear more about protagonist’s parents! And like half the party has issues with family that we already saw in the other palaces, so it could be a great fake boss rush style memory lane of all those guys. instead of just pulling guns out his butt that cast all the same status effects. It could be ESPECIALLY good for GIVING POOR HARU MORE SCREENTIME AND DEVELOPMENT. Seriously, just imagine how fucked up it would be to see a twisted fake dad doll attatched to some fucker’s tentacle face, all these months after he died? it was a good idea to at least mention how he was the only palace owner who died, but it was a shame it meant he was also the only one who didnt get to cameo here and give the corresponding party member some more dialogue and developments. Especially cos Haru is fuckin awesome against bosses! HARU 4 EVARRRR But seriously even if everything was exactly the same and they just made one small reference to some character we already know something about, at least it would give us some frame of reference for yaldabaoth’s actual goddamn motives. who in the FUCK thinks its a good idea to tape on an extra 10 hours after the climactic boss to give us Nobody Mc Grail who Does Bad Cos He Want To. Srsly its like if P4 ended with ameno-sagiri and didnt even have all that izanami stuff and moral ambiguity and seriously i am gaining SO MUCH appreciation for how they managed to make a sudden unforeshadowed boss have AN ACTUAL SOUL. And she related to the themes of the story without being repetitive! Still not as good as nyx/ryoji in my opinion, but it wasnt just ‘we are contractually obliged to throw in 1 (one) Evil God (tm) at the last second, because its a persona game’ the final scene was good, the everything else wasnt 100 Yes to Satan Saving Christmas Thank God for Giant Bullet Blow His Face Off but not THIS PARICULAR GOD because he is a detestable flaw in a game that I loved very much! at least he got fuckin sploded and got a good ‘im fucked’ face without even having a face. Seriously that brief REACTION SHOT was sooooo fuckin cathartic! his ONLY PERSONALITY he ever got was being a smug asshole who thinks he’s the best final boss ever, and we got an actual moment of ‘ha ha ha ha i win i win, i- OHHOTDIGGITYJESUSCHRIST’ *splat* thanks satan now can we seriously have no more evil gods ever, they have officially outlived their welcome can satan just shoot all of them in the head before they even get to be in the story ilu satan (also im curious now to do more research on ‘satanael’ and see what the difference even is about this form? is it just a different aspect of the christian devil like how satan and lucifer are also available in this game? or is satanael actually just a different mythological figure and the whole ‘satan saves christmas’ meme is just cos they sound similar?)
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