#(i'm not. going to elaborate bc i feel if i'm honest with that specific personality disorder i. will get send threats sooo um <3)

[moogghost]

Kwanzaa yenu iwe na heri to anyone else who celebrates it! we're unable to celebrate it with most physical stuff associated with the whole celebration this year because it's currently unsafe for us to do so, but i hope everyone else celebrating has a wonderful next several days celebrating it and that the seven principles help guide us through the next year

[kittyvolvox]

It’s been a minute since I’ve seen ST2…if you don’t mind, can you elaborate more about your post regarding the name Jane…cause I feel the same way, like she would like to reclaim her name and what she’s lost, but I always see people say she prefers El because it’s an affectionate nickname or something.

okay so basically the second-half of s2 jane is completely seperated from hawkins and anyone she knows her. she specifically leaves bc she is looking for her mother, for where she came from, we also see a flashback of jane asking hopper who/where her mother is so this is an ongoing thing that has been plaguing jane.

when becky ives asks who she is, she replies "jane" and refers to terry ives as "mama" continually and when becky calls the ives house "home" jane repeats "home" like she also believes this could be home for her. so she clearly likes this being jane and being an ives, at least so far. however, jane ultimately leaves the ives home - but only bc becky calls the police asking for help and she gets spooked - and bc jane wants to know more abt her sister kali.

jane then meets kali and again, she introduces herself as "jane". this is despite the fact kali would actually know her better as eleven or say "el like eleven" perhaps, as kali only knows jane through the lab. jane literally has to show kali her number tattoo bc the name jane means nothing to kali. this time we know for certain that she must be using the name jane instead of el/eleven not for simplicity like you could assume at the ives house, but for another reason. a reason i personally believe is due to jane feeling a connection to this new name rather than her old one. when kali says "home" jane again repeats "home" bc she also believes this could be home for her. she feels kinship here with kali, as jane.

looking further in 2x07 (ik ppl hate it but idc) aka "the lost sister" we have the scene where kali tells jane to let herself feel her anger, something which takes jane a while as she's not used to allowing herself to feel these emotions fully. (the only other time before this we see jane as fully angry before this is when she's fighting with hopper, which considering she's being held against her will as a lab rat is WILD if you think abt it.) at face value, this scene is just abt anger, but its also abt emotions and jane's humanity in general imo. as jane, she's allowed herself both these things, but as "eleven" in the lab and even "el" with the boys she has not. even in later seasons, mike describes jane as a superhero not a person. "el" is not human like jane is.

speaking of this ep notice when jane leaves it's bc hawkins needs her. she doesn't want to leave kali, she doesn't want to stop being jane but does it bc it's her obligation. this is jane actively putting her powers before her own desires. i'm not saying jane didn't miss the ppl in hawkins bc we see that she does, but up until they were in danger, jane didn't miss them enough to put them above kali bc kali gives her something the ppl in hawkins can't/don't know to give her. understanding. her humanity. her name.

also the s3 scene with her and max shopping - max has to reiterate that jane should do what she wants and not what mike/hopper want. this shows me that jane is not putting herself first, she is putting others first and i truly believe that extends to her name.

i'm not saying the party are bad friends for calling her "el" bc they didn't see jane's arc in s2 and don't know everything that's going on with her. but doesn't the fact they don't know (from what we see) abt jane's mother which as i mentioned is a big part of jane's life that she cares deeply abt, a sign that jane isn't being open and honest with them abt who she is? that she isn't sharing that vulnerable, human side with them? that she is putting being a "superhero" before being human?

i hope this answered your question anon :) but tldr: i believe jane represents her humanity and el/eleven represents her being a "superhero".

[the-scintillant-sys-sideblog]

i swear every time we see a singlet of all people going into detail about their anti-endo stances and lumping it in with like people generally seen as bad it just gives me the urge to be more annoyingly plural on main everywhere bc at that point i can just tell that systems existing in general makes you uncomfortable on some level if you feel the need to dictate which systems are okay and acceptable by your standards bc even the ones you claim to accept will not always fall into the rules of the imaginary box you've set up and therefore will never be a safe person for any system to go to as a singlet

like honest to god you will be much safer as someone if you just. idk. give respect any system you come across and treat them with decency regardless of whether you understand or not because you are not going to have the full understanding of any system experience if you truly and fully are a singlet. you don't need to give your take of "i think [specific group of systems/plurals] is as bad as [x]" or "i don't think there's as many systems as there are really bc that's too rare" your singlet opinion on system discourse is meaningless

i'm not even saying this as part of a system who's collectively pro endo i'm saying this as someone who thinks singlets need to stop getting as involved in syscourse as some of them are in general. like at worst just state your stance and don't elaborate so i know whether to block you or not anything more is 10x more annoying if you're a singlet

[doberbutts]

How do you cope with the power dynamics in trans spaces? How do you cope with the fact that so many people feel entitled to tell trans men what we go through? What words we should use? What labels we have the right to identify with? I'm genuinely seeking insight into how you've remained active in these discussions without completely losing faith in online trans spaces. I don't know why it's fair for us to be bossed around and demeaned. I'd be better off detransitioning at this rate.

NGL this ask reads kinda weird to me. How do I cope with the power dynamics in trans spaces? IDK about you but I've never been one to care much about power dynamics outside of a kink situation. That's not even a sarcastic remark genuinely I do not give a shit and will continue doing my own thing regardless of where I am or what's going on around me.

Additionally, local trans spaces are influenced by, well, the local area. In places where more of one demographic shows up, that demographic holds more power. That's pretty basic sociology. And, most trans spaces share space with cis people who may feel like they have a different relationship with their gender than most, as well as with allies, so sometimes the person holding the floor isn't even trans at all. That's okay as long as everyone is receiving the support they need.

Also outside of specific tags on tumblr I stay out of online trans spaces. They have been filled with stupid petty infighting just like all LGBT spaces and I was over it the second I learned about it. Can't lose faith in something you've never been bothered to join. Even now- who do I regularly talk to within the tags on tumblr I do follow? I reblog stuff every now and then (more rn bc there's more in the tags bc it's pride month and my blog operates mostly on a queue) but mostly if I say something on someone's post it's either to fix a factual error or to reiterate a point I thought was really fantastic. I don't know most of these people. I'm not friends with them. Friendly =/= friends. I'm not active in any discussions outside of the ones I post to my own blog.

I'll be honest with you: I don't give a shit what complete strangers think of me. Whether they like me or dislike me. They're not my friends. Why do I care what they think I'm like, what my life is like? They don't know the first thing about me besides what I choose to put on my blog. For all you know it could be an elaborate lie. I call out bad behavior towards me when I see it because I don't tolerate base bullying and shithead behavior anymore, but otherwise? If they dislike me without at all taking the opportunity to speak to me, get to know me, talk to me like a fellow human being? Fuck 'em. I don't need such fairweather friends anyway.

But the detransitioning comment gets me. I don't know what that has anything to do with this. I'm not trans to be accepted into a community. I'm trans because I'm a man that was born with a vagina. The opinions of others can never take that away from me.

[dreamsclock]

'Dream wasanipulating them in the visits' dream when asked if he was treated well: yeah I'm fine I get fed! When asked if hes okay: I like to play pranks! If sam is treating him right: yeah, hes doing his job!

Like dreams doing a real awful job of manipulating the people that come to visit bc not only does he insist hes fine, the moment people leave they just dont think about him anymore like tommy didnt come back to revisit and bad has the egg to deal with.

I feel like no matter what dream does it will always seem like manipulation, starts being honest about the way hes been treated-youre just trying to make me feel bad for you to release you >:(, goes quiet-now you're trying to make yourself look pitiful so I feel bad for you, you said you're losing your mind bc the prison is very inhumane-well you should have thought about that before you went all evil :/

No matter what he does he'll be seen as a manipulator and if hes only ever going to be seen as a bad guy why try to be the good guy yknow?

you hit the nail on the head, anon! i swear we’re all a hivemind, because i was just about to make a post on this.

let’s talk manipulation for a second. there are two definitions - “control or influence (a person or situation) cleverly or unscrupulously” AND “alter or present (data) so as to mislead”. time and time again we see dream manipulate people, making them turn on themselves and each other and everything they care about. we see him do this specifically to tubbo and tommy (we have confirmation ooc that the voice in ranboo’s head is NOT dream, so i’m leaving ranboo out for now). 

the exile arc - both tubbo and tommy are manipulated. dream tells tommy he’s the only one who cares, that he’s his friend, that things are going better without him in l’manburg. this is both methods of manipulation, and he does the exact same to tubbo - telling him tommy doesn’t want to see him, telling him he’s his friend, deliberately appearing as an ally, all to get the discs. he was clever, cunning, driving the knife home where it hurt for both of them and putting a band-aid over it and eventually getting them to thank him for it, basically. we as the audience know this is manipulation, because of dream’s tone of voice/in-game body language, because of the context, because we know dream’s role in the story.

he’s not being clever in prison. he’s manipulating the information he’s giving out, but if anything, he’s turning people that would want to help him AGAINST him - reassuring bad he’s fine and gets enough food, refusing to elaborate on his reasons for striking, telling bad that the warden treats him well. the information we learn about dream does nothing to tell us he’s being mistreated, other than the snippets of information he seems not to class as important or slips up in telling us. 

examining dream’s body language in-game and paying extra special attention to his voice acting helps us figure out that dream is not being manipulative. i’m gonna make a whole post on body language and voice later (yey, theatre kid things), but if you analyse it and notice how DIFFERENT it is from how he usually speaks/acts, you can see very clearly that he’s,, genuinely suffering.

i doubt his apology to tommy was real. it was far too early and incredibly too good to be true. but now? people insist every little thing smp!dream says and does is manipulation.

the thing is, we knew about it as the audience before. and i’m positive that we would be very very aware if dream was doing the same now. the context is different - dream’s role as the villain has been taken away from him now. he hasn’t suddenly lost the ability to manipulate, which is what it would look like if he really was trying to be manipulative in prison. he’s HURTING, he’s suffering, and no matter what he says/does, you’re right anon, he’s always gonna be seen as just manipulating us.

[kippentrash]

(1/?)The fact that I thought them saying long distance was a metaphor for how the relationship is slowburn is probably far fetched right? I think Rachel will show up in 3x14, that would be some conflict possibly because Marty is shown running with Buffy :o If I'm gonna be honest I think Muffy will get together romantically but once I meet Rachel I'll either be like "love this new character!" or "i want to cry why are you this way" JUST LET THEM BE HAPPY DISNEY I BEG YOU

(2/?) Tyrus tangents always welcome! My heart broke for both of them. Cyrus is already insecure as we’ve seen and this can’t be good for his self esteem :( TJ is obviously going through something and I’m worried for what it is. Did Kira make him insecure? Or was it something different? Either way this emotional conflict (as you pointed out) feels almost bigger than the gun. Because Cyrus trusts Tj at this point, the gun situation was the thing to cement that

(3/3) Totally agree with being outsold like this episode, while hurtful in aspects was so GOOD. We’re seeing Jonah growth, Muffy and Tyrus growth and I am here for it!! Bexie not having a wedding I was actually okay with? Hopefully Andi’ll be okay too. My cats a Burmese! He just reached his 1st year yesterday :) you have a dog??? What breed? How old? Sorry I love dogs they are great animals -ghostie anon

So like this turned out pretty long bc I addressed pretty much everything you mentioned (most elaborately the buildup and teardown of Cyrus) plus more here and there. Like, I’ve typed a lot before, and I’ve put things under a cut before, but this is LONG. Like when I first got into the fandom and typed a weeks worth of responsed for the Andi Mack Month prompts long. SO UNDER A CUT IT GOES LOL (I’m sorry again for it being practically a 5 page essay ;w;)

To summarize: Rachel will definitely be an interesting aspect of the ep, the things showed of Cyrus’s insecurities plus the fact that somersaults are ‘their thing’ makes it all the more painful, I’m really excited to see what specifically they chose to do with TJ and his insecurities, Jonah’s doing better and I don’t want Jandi to ruin that, this episode has some cool parallels to 1x11, and this episode set up so much with each of the relationships I’m ready to see unfurl. Oh and rip Andi bigtime this episode.

Oh and so you don’t need to scroll all the way down, THAT’S SO CUTE MY FRIEND HAS A BURMESE TOO!!! He always looks like he’s constantly terrified lol I don’t think he likes me. And HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO HIM!!! Doggos are amazing I have a yellow lab and I wub her sm

OKAY ONTO MY HELLA LONG RESPONSE TO YOUR ASKS I LOVE YOU AND IM REALLY SORRY IN ADVANCED 

Ooo that’s a cool thought! Maybe maybe! All I thought about the long distance thing is it was to show that Marty has changed a little during their time apart and that it was a plot device to show that Buffy’s competitiveness can cause her to get in over her head still, as well as you know the Marty worrying stuff. But that’s actually really interesting I hadn’t thought of it that way! I wonder how slow burn they can make it though considering how little is left for them to work with.

Pretty much anything Muffy related will cause conflict when it comes to Rachel tbh. Like just them standing next to one another with her knowledge will be something because of the sheer amount of sparks flying between them when they so much as look at each other LOL (You can see my Muffy stan jumping out). And I’m all for it! No offense Rachel, I know you probably make Marty happy and stuff but like… Muffy. I’m honestly kind of curious how Marty and Rachel’s relationship is going to be portrayed considering it’s going to be sunk FAST and I’m pretty sure Muffy will happen extremely soon after so. We’ll see how that goes. Because Muffy is definitely endgame at this point in my opinion, whether it be ambiguous because Rachel and Marty just broke up and they want to find security in the newly rebuilt relationship they have before starting anything or something they show with full confirmation and commitment on screen.

I’m trying my best to have NO expectations of Rachel so we’ll see what happens when I meet her lol. There’s no character in this show at this point I have ZERO opinion on I think (watch me remember some as soon as I finish posting this lol), so I’m pretty sure that I’ll definitely form some feeling about her in the single episode she’s in. But I’m kind of hoping they’re not that strong of feelings. So we’ll see how that goes I don’t want to feel bad for her but I also don’t want to just despise her for being a buffer between Muffy so. WE SHALL SEE WE SHALL SEE.

As for Tyrus, oh my GODS right? Looking at it from Cyrus’s perspective might pain me even more than looking at it in TJ’s. 

TJ’s the one person who’s constantly believed in him and never seems to be ashamed of Cyrus, and then this happens. He was the first one to tell Cyrus not to let anyone, even himself, tell him what he can’t do. Then take into account that somersault is one of those big moments in Cyrus’s life where TJ was there and believed in him and didn’t seem to be ashamed or put off by it, even though Cyrus and Andi had insisted it was something Cyrus was incapable of. Both him and his best friend tried to warn TJ against it, yet TJ didn’t give up on Cyrus and was so proud when he was able to do it. But now that same thing that TJ had once been proud of and shown no judgment towards and is something Cyrus considered to be their thing is what TJ winds up opting out of. 

It brings me back to s2 when Cyrus said “He wants to be friends with me. Who knows why.” And it makes me really want to cri everytiem. Like you said, the gun situation built up their friendship even more and established its solidarity, and you can tell they got even closer after it. He thought they were comfortable and that he was as important to TJ as TJ was to him (which he IS), especially after the whole “only person I can talk to like this” thing. So TJ not telling Cyrus something, along with that ‘something’ negatively having to do with something he thought was special to both of them, must be a real punch in the gut.  Maybe Cyrus is more secure in himself than I’m giving him credit for and is just feeling betrayed, but I think it’s more of both betrayal, humiliation, and questioning of their whole relationship (which I think I’ve posted about already lol). 

AND THEN if you take when he and Jonah were supposed to wear matching jackets together and compare that to him and TJ in this scenario, I’d think that this feels even worse. TJ was the one brought up doing a matching costume in comparison to him bringing up the jackets with Jonah, and instead of just being a jacket from a random sports game he didn’t care for, this was an inside joke that he emphasized was their thing. So it was bigger and more important. This may be me reading into it too much, but considering being ditched in a situation like this is now something that has happened to him before due to the Jonah thing, he might feel even worse about himself for letting it happen to him twice.

I’m putting a lot of emphasis on the fact that it’s their thing, because even though Cyrus and TJ both saying that in the episode was cute for the simple fact that they say they have a ‘thing’, I feel like by saying that it also draws attention to the importance of what the costume was in their relationship. It was them both being proud of having a ‘thing’ and ‘inside joke’ together. And I kinda keep in mind that Cyrus and TJ had been talking about the costume and its importance to two different people trying to stand their ground against two different costumes. They know both of them found the costume funny and was a cool joke between the two of them, but they didn’t necessarily know how much importance it held for the other. But one party backed out of something that actually holds importance and emotional value for someone they claimed they didn’t really hang out with much and with no warning at all. If it were me my anxiety would make me wonder whether it had actually been important to them at all or if it were all in my own head. ;=;

This scene just feels so built up from so many different times we’ve seen Cyrus feel insecure, and now that TJ’s become someone he doesn’t find himself feeling insecure around and someone he instead finds comfort in, having it all compound into TJ no longer being someone who he can feel he trusts makes it so much worse. Especially since it related to something he felt was important enough to them that he’d opted out of the GHC+Jonah costume.

And on TJ’s side I feel so bad that he feels like turning down Kira for Cyrus is something that wouldn’t normally be accepted, and I’m really curious what route they’re going to go in terms of which aspect of what she said had caused him to change his mind, because really there are a few different things they can go about using. They can draw it on the lines of peer pressure and social hierarchy, fear of being too obvious with how he treats Cyrus, make him question himself/his sexuality, etc. and whatever route they do take will essentially come back to TJ’s insecurity. 

But like I said, TJ’s never seemed to be ashamed of being close to Cyrus before and has never seemed to care about how being friends with Cyrus (or ‘a person like Cyrus’) might affect his image before, so I’m really interested to see what part of his insecurities caused him to ditch Cyrus. He’s in so much pain when he sees Cyrus (Luke OUTSOLD) that it makes me wonder what pushed him to even consider hurting both himself and Cyrus in the process. Especially when you consider the line from 3x7 where he talks about how if he knew Reed had a gun, he definitely wouldn’t have brought Cyrus. So yeah, I’m really curious and hope to see them actually specify what part of her threat caused him to decide to change his mind. They pretty much need to have him give some explanation to Cyrus in order for things to mend themselves.

I also wonder if TJ will feel bad enough about this to avoid Cyrus himself or if TJ’s insecurities will cause him to feel like he doesn’t have the right or can’t talk to Cyrus without it being risky, or if Cyrus will be avoiding him after this or anything. This seems like a big argument type of thing. No TJ next episode means no confrontation for at least a period of time in-universe, and I don’t think it’ll be Buffy and Andi policing Cyrus again this time. Cyrus is his own person, they know that and acknowledge that more than ever after the gun incident, and I think they know whatever he does in regards to TJ will be his own decision and will support his decision like the good friends they are. People are upset at them for jumping to conclusions about TJ ditching Cyrus but fact of the matter is their friend is extremely upset over something TJ caused, and they’re being protective. Sort of like when Amber had done some bad things to Andi, it took Cyrus and Buffy some time on their own to lower their defenses. Plus, looking at Cyrus’s face when he was about to cry after TJ leaves with Kira tells me that while the gun thing wasn’t that personal, this definitely was.

Please say that it’s not a plotline they shove offscreen for an episode like they did with Jonah and Libby before coming back to it. At least show Cyrus having some distress about it and talking about it with maybe Buffy or something. And please please please Andi Mack I beg of you stop hurting TJ like this he’s already gone through so much and he’s NOT EVEN A MAIN CHARACTER SALKDJASKLDJ Anytime he does something like this it will give me flashbacks to “classic TJ” and I DON’T WANT IT TO (okay yes I do because it shows it’s a powerful line and they’re using it to provoke me properly but you know what I mean)

Jonah, Jonah, Jonah. This poor boy. He’s growing into his own person and becoming more understanding that while he should take others feelings into account he also needs to pay attention to himself instead of just always putting on a brave face which I love. But jfc he has the worst timing to make these decisions. Andi already had so many other things just crashing down around her, adding his anvil to the pile was definitely an oof.

I really hope that now that they’re emphasizing both how Andi does not want to be the next ex in the lineup as well as how Jonah finds being in a relationship too demanding that it’s actually building up to a single Jonah endgame, or at the very least an ambiguous endgame. They have it pretty set in stone at this point that Andi and Jonah are fine with their friendship and that Jonah’s been getting himself into relationships he is most definitely not ready for, so with so few episodes left I can’t see how they can turn that on its heel and result in Jandi endgame without some major logic gaps. 

For the love of EVERYTHING Jonah take some time to be single. Amber always needing a boyfriend pales in comparison to you always getting a girlfriend even though you don’t even seem to want one???

Also random but I really like how his decision to not partake in the group costume paralleled 1x11 where Andi decided to not just make decisions to make Jonah happy. I feel like this episode in general paralleled bits of 1x11 here and there tbh. Maybe I’m just reading into it too much but not just Jonah and Andi making their own decisions instead of making everyone happy, but the whole costume aspect vs the prison uniforms, Cyrus wanting to back out of Mt Rushmore vs wanting to change into his own outfit for picture day, Buffy helping Cyrus find an replacement vs Buffy helping Cyrus find a way to use the prison uniform well for his picture, and Jonah not participating in Mt Rushmore just for Andi vs Andi not giving up on her movement and taking off the uniform just for Jonah are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head! I haven’t seen anyone mention it and it’s not like its a big obvious parallel, but it’s just some things I started thinking about after comparing Jonah and Andi’s ‘were we ever’-esque speeches.

AND FINALLY MUFFY, TYRUS, AND BEXIE PLOTS OPENING. 

Like you said, I love the develpoment they’re giving Muffy and Tyrus! Muffy’s being given time to show that they fit like puzzle pieces even after not talking for awhile and that even after they haven’t talked for awhile and left on not the best of terms, they still clearly care for eachother whatever way that is at the moment, and I can’t wait to see how they add to that care and their dynamic as we get to see the rest of Marty’s episodes in the season. Tyrus getting angst specifically related to their relationship like Muffy’s ‘I want it to be real/I don’t want it to change’, Bexie’s proposal(s) and last name decision, and Jandi’s… well Jandi’s everything since pretty much it’s always something personal blown out of proportion for Jandi is something I didn’t expect and am actually excited for the more I think about it! Like yes it’s going to pain me until the show is back, but I’m not opposed to the angst itself lol. So I’m ready to see how they grow and to what extent they grow by the finale!

Bexie not having a wedding I’m actually okay with too. Like there’s really no rush to get married, if they decide later down the line they do want to have a wedding or just want to officiate it that’s fine. They’re engaged, and they’re committed to eachother, and that’s enough for them if they can be a family. Of course, eventually they’ll probably want to go through with at least something small in the future (if you think hypothetically not with the confirmation they’re gonna have a wedding in show) that’s fine too. Honestly, considering they didn’t even go through the process of beginning to date again before proposing, I sort of think it’d be good for them if they prolong the wedding. There’s no time frame a wedding needs to occur post engagement, right?

I do feel bad for Andi though, since she was so excited and working so hard with Cece to plan for the wedding, only for it to not happen since of course it’s not her wedding and she can’t make them get married if they don’t want to. This episode was just so mean to her oh my gosh, from her parents’ marriage to her group costume, they were things she was so excited for but had to rely on others which ultimately fell through and she just can’t do anything about it really. PLUS trying to work out a friends’ relationship and make it work for them even though it’s really not something she should need to get involved with must’ve exhausted her. Trust me, I know. I know the feeling for both the being excited for something but commitments fall through and the feeling of how tiring it is trying to help friends in a relationship understand their own relationship. Lmao.

I think that was about it in response to what you said. Sorry again that it’s so frEAKING long and if you read this far (whether you’re ghostie or you’re just a random passerby on this LONG ASS POST) you a real one and I love you

I should have applied to TyrusChat with this much commentary i stg SLKAJDLKSAJ except I was too socially anxious to apply and have such disorganized thoughts to dump. Whoops.

I hope this made sense. It took me like 2-3 hrs to type this all out while discording my friends (not related to Andi Mack), so yeah. Hope this was a fun read and is somewhat coherent since it’s 2am. No proofreading we die like… dead people.

OVERALL: As you put it best...

“JUST LET THEM BE HAPPY DISNEY I BEG YOU “