#[gestures to the entire action genre and all the dead wives]
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redemptive death is the laziest trope in western literature i think. redemption should take work. to have it undone with one act where they don’t even have to confront their own ills is a disservice. both the character and the other characters they’ve harmed deserve better. more zukos, less kylos. please.
#stranger things has a huge problem with this#in the case of both billy and eddie btw#like i know theres some debate about whether or not eddie's death was even meant to be redemptive or if it was suicide#but idk like in the case of billy specifically like let me be clear i do not like billy and im not invested in his redemption#but if he was to be redeemed#i want to see him work for it and i want to see him admit what he did#and i want to see the other characters work through their own feelings about it#having them die for others and then the characters have to accept it is like#so manipulative of the audience?#like manipulation isn't the right word right#but like. okay they made the 'ultimate sacrifice' or whatever so you have to accept that as a cathartic apology#or you're an asshole#and it also puts the CHARACTERS in that position which is a whole other kettle of fish#like i genuinely think we should get more characters who are pissed their enemies died rather than apologise#because now they don't even get a choice whether to forgive them or not#anyway#killing characters can be fun but also sometimes people use it as a way to be lazy#[gestures to the entire action genre and all the dead wives]
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