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[j2eonij]

I'm 100% sure that if we let baeddels have a complete monopoly on gender politics, discourses, movements, that they can say anything they want without any backlash, they'll institutionalize the idea that AFABs are in fact the dominant class of the patriarchy, that we oppresses trans women, cis men and other amab groups, that we are its primary beneficiaries and therefore have a vested interest in preserving it.

Lmfao look at this.

Cis men being seen as "at risk of being tma and therefore cannot be considered tme" means that your tma vs tme analysis of gendered power relations implies that cis women dominate and oppress cis men, that afabs have power over amabs, and that we were right when we warned that tme tma are replacements for afab and amab - tme being used to dismiss, misrepresent and villy us as the oppressors.

The whole ideology they're trying to normalize encourages cis men and transfems to ally with each other *against afab people*, because in this worldview we're seen as the class that oppresses both groups! The likely reaction of afab people exposed to such ideas is radicalization in the other direction: with afabs and against amabs. Are these baeddels aware of this outcome?

Sometimes I wonder if these people aren't some kind of terf psyop to fuel a gender war in the trans community in order to weaken it from within

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This person said in all seriousness that transmascs are trying to *subordinate cismen to themselves* to eliminate potential transfem allies (cismen), allow afab infiltration into transfem spaces with the ultimate goal of politcally destroying transfeminism. This is a actual example of MRA ideology with conspiratorial tendencies within the trans community, which almost no one dares to recognize as MRA and anti-afab because it comes from transfems.

So here we are with a transfem-cisman coalition to bring down the ''afab oppressor'', which is a predictable idea considering their views on afab peo- oops ''tmes''.

In Baeddels' worldview, afab people, whatever their gender, are an immutable enemy unlike cismen (whatever their level of transphobia) since they are closer to transfem by virtue of their agab, making them potential allies. A cisman can be ''converted'' into a transfem, but not a cis woman or a transmasc, rendering us as eternal enemies of transfems.

When i say that baeddels have more solidarity with cis men than any afab, even those who regularly pass as transfem, I get dismissed as some crazy transmisogynst

[j2eonij]

The fact that there's a term "transmisogyny-exempy", mainly used to dismiss transmascs but no "antitransmasculinity-exempt" equivalent, says a lot about the internal dynamics of the trans community.

[j2eonij]

I think a lot of trans guys who defend the delusional idea that trans men have male privilege, that you can overcome your agab socially (etc) do so partially because it's too depressing for them to acknowledge the reality that when you're born with a vagina in a patriarchal society, whatever your gender, you'll always face misogyny and be treated differently because of this innate characteristic. That's also why, when others point out that the only way for transmascs to avoid (interpersonal, not systemic) misogyny is to hide their AGAB, they feel very uncomfortable and try to dodge the remark. It reveals too many uncomfortable truths about transmascs actual position in society.

To add another layer of sadness to this situation, is that members in the community will use this delusional narrative against transmascs to silence them about their oppression, their experiences, to speak over them, control them, to portray them as male oppressors who must shut their mouths and make transfem voices heard.

These transmascs lie about their social situation for this particular reason, and also to serve the intracommunity interests of transfems (claiming that transmascs are these privileged male oppressors, mostly benefits transfems within the community, not transmascs), only to be treated like garbage in return?

[j2eonij]

the same people who accuse transmascs of being MRAs believe that ''afabs'' have power over ''amabs'' lol